[sudo-discuss] 2141 Broadway Co-Op?

Tue Oct 1 15:43:08 PDT 2013

This is an extraordinarily unfair thing to say. On so many levels.

I'm sorry that I have not articulated myself better. Those who know me, know that the message below is unfounded and mean-spirited.

For the sake of moving on to the work we have cut out for us - this is my last message addressing this topic.

sent from eddan.com

On Oct 1, 2013, at 3:09 PM, rhodey <rhodey at anhonesteffort.org> wrote:

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> Eddan,
> 
> You took it upon yourself to terminate SudoRoom's lease in (what I
> understand to be) a private meeting. Putting the question of whether
> or not this was agreed on by SudoRoom aside, the very least that you
> could do is share with us the details of a discussion you had on our
> behalf.
> 
> Take a second to realize that although the idea of investing in
> property is both interesting and financially feasible for you, others
> may not feel the same or be financially able.
> 
> - -- rhodey
> 
> On 10/01/2013 02:54 PM, Eddan Katz wrote:
>> I don't think it makes any sense to lump this into one of george's 
>> emotional outbursts.
>> 
>> as we've all been following closely over this list, the equity 
>> crowdfunding provision of the Jobs Act, which went into effect last
>> week on Sept. 23, 2013, enables the distribution of shares outside
>> the traditional infrastructure of approved investors. the changes
>> in the future of capital flow routing around wall st. and the rules
>> surrounding investment cannot be underestimated. by opening up the
>> buying of stocks to us regular folks - with capital investment no
>> longer made unaffordable because of the huge cuts taken by
>> investment bank intermediaries and securities regulations
>> fortifying the status quo - the possibilities for raising capital
>> have just exploded.
>> 
>> most interestingly, from my point of view, a collaborative 
>> non-hierarchical ownership and management structure becomes
>> feasible in a way that it has never been in economic history.
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:marina.kukso at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> as far as i know eddan is the only one who has spoken with
>>> george, one of the building's owners, about the co-op
>>> possibility. eddan, can you share any more info about what
>>> exactly george said (my main question is whether this is just
>>> another one of george's idle threat type things that he just says
>>> and never intends to follow through on).?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Zee <zee at zeespencer.com 
>>> <mailto:zee at zeespencer.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am exceedingly interested in this, and would happily discuss
>>> it further over tea or coffee with other interested parties.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Andrew
>>> <andrew at roshambomedia.com <mailto:andrew at roshambomedia.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I have no idea what the price per sq-ft is. We should find
>>>> that
>>> out. Also
>>>> having the capital isn't really as important as having a small
>>> group who is
>>>> willing to put in the time and resources when necessary to
>>>> make
>>> it happen.
>>>> With good enough credit it would be possible to finance the
>>> space depending
>>>> on the down payment. Or even crowd source the down payment.
>>> There are a lot
>>>> of options if there are people who actually want to it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com
>>> <mailto:hol at gaskill.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> bump
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oct 1, 2013 10:51:46 AM, zee at zeespencer.com
>>> <mailto:zee at zeespencer.com> wrote:
>>>>> Do we have an idea on what the per-sq-ft sale cost is?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:50 AM, David Keenan
>>> dkeenan44 at gmail.com <mailto:dkeenan44 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> The co-op thing sounds like a very cool idea, except for
>>>>>>> the
>>> fact that
>>>>>>> neither I nor anyone I know has, to my knowledge at
>>>>>>> least,
>>> access to
>>>>>>> the volume of capital that i imagine is required, so
>>>>>>> personally
>>> I'm still a
>>>>>>> bit lost on how one would move forward on such an
>>>>>>> acquisition..?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -d
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 1, 2013, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I haven't been around all that much, but am I correct
>>>>>>>> to
>>> assume that
>>>>>>>> the current situation is that:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1. Sudo Room's current lease ends Jan 1st 2. George is
>>>>>>>> willing to sell off part of 2141 to a group of
>>> investors?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If this is so. Let's talk 2141 Co-Op. Is there anyone
>>>>>>>> on
>>> this list who
>>>>>>>> would be at all interested in owning part of a building
>>>>>>>> in
>>> the middle
>>>>>>>> of Downtown Oakland??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sudo Room or not, this is a great opportunity for a
>>> collective to turn
>>>>>>>> some extremely prime real estate in to a commercial
>>>>>>>> Co-Op.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just wanted to bring attention to this. Thoughts?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -- ------- Andrew Lowe Cell: 831-332-2507
>>>>>>>> <tel:831-332-2507> http://roshambomedia.com
>>>>>>>> <http://roshambomedia.com/>
>>>>>>> 
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