[sudo-discuss] Fear / food / friendship

Tue Jun 10 15:28:42 PDT 2014

thank you jenny.

On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:02 AM, Somebody <somebody at riseup.net> wrote:

> Thank you Jenny.
>
> Daniel
>
>
> Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> FYI, i flipped Timon's moderation bit, so his messages may not be getting
> through to the list. If you think this was a poor decision, you're welcome
> to bring it up at this week's meeting.
>
> This decision made for the wellbeing of the wider sudo community, and for
> solidarity in the face of those who would attempt to seed fear, uncertainty
> and distrust through self-serving manipulation.
>
> Not okay.
>
> Jenny
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> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
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>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Max B <maxb.personal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes please go do your thing (well away from sudo). Seeing as you told me
>> "get the fuck out of my space" I won't be missing you much. One of the
>> nicest things about the move to the omni will likely be not having you
>> around anymore.
>>
>> On June 9, 2014 8:14:10 PM PDT, Timon of Proximal Development <
>> timondocent at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> FYI Yar is incorrect. She witnessed the verbal notice herself, which I
>>> was given by Matt, who had been avoiding me, after David(?) from TPS came
>>> over to broach conversation, and mention to me that I'd been banned.
>>>
>>> I said Oh, really, walked back the few yards to where Matt and others
>>> were talking (we were all outside for smoke breaks). I asked for written
>>> confirmations for the ban, from both sudo and TPS, and was promised both
>>> there and then, so I said OK, and that I would make it my last night in the
>>> common area (where I had some conversations already going on, and had been
>>> relaxing and creating all night). I said that I really needed the written
>>> statements, and explained why, and got committments to provide them. I got
>>> Matt's (sent from his cell right there?) almost immediately, and then no
>>> further confirmation. Nonetheless, I refrained from using the common area.
>>>
>>> I have never been told what I do that makes people feel unsafe, never
>>> been given a chance to meet anyone to discuss how my behavior might be
>>> improved, and never, evidently considered worthy of the most minimal and
>>> polite explanation (because there is not enough time).
>>>
>>> Alas, unfortunately, no.
>>>
>>> Anybody who wants the real story, or to give me the real story, feel
>>> free, if you do it in a way that involves compassion.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, those who are not in my list of 11-of-13 people who decided
>>> not to knock on my door or call the phone number posted on it (where I
>>> generally am, stuck there trying to do business despite Goerge, in a
>>> closed-office located 1 minute or less from the sudo meeting itself)  --
>>>
>>> Anybody who is not such an impolite and crue couldn't-spare-the-timer...
>>>  not one of those who decided it was to much of a waste of time to explain,
>>>  have me there (even telephonically) or with
>>> non-violent-process-facilitators at a future date chosen at sudo's leisure
>>> ... is welcome in the child-friendly space I will be creating myself,
>>> assuming they agree to and sign something that will help us prevent this
>>> very thing from happening over there, too.
>>>
>>> Close to two dozen people on a total of three occasions have seen me ask
>>> for a mediated discussion with Matt or Juul. Nuff said. I tried, often, in
>>> front of witnesses. And if there a list of times I avoided people trying to
>>> make an appointment with me, then please show me the email or message
>>> attempts.
>>>
>>> Oh well.
>>>
>>> See ya.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:23 PM, yar <yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> FYI,
>>>>
>>>> Timon was given verbal and written notice on the night of Thursday May
>>>> 22, that he is not welcome at Sudoroom. At the following meeting,
>>>> Wednesday May 28, 13/13 members present consensed on this statement:
>>>> "Regardless of Timon's current membership status, we find him in 'bad
>>>> standing' with regard to sudo room's values, specifically with regard
>>>> to 'safe space'. We ban Timon from the sudo room, for an indefinite
>>>> period."
>>>>
>>>> This was not a conflict resolution process, it was a ban in the
>>>> interest of safe space.That same meeting also consented generally that
>>>> 2141 tenants don't have an inherent right to our common space and need
>>>> specific permission to access it.
>>>>
>>>> BAPS has a policy of honoring all Sudoroom bans.
>>>>
>>>> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014-05-28#Bans
>>>>
>>>> In a perfect world we would offer endless compassion, restoration and
>>>> reparation towards all beings. In this world, we don't have the time
>>>> or resources to provide the care everybody needs. We sincerely hope
>>>> they can find it elsewhere.
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