[sudo-discuss] shotspotter will be discontinued

[Somebody]

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As I understand the Mesh it's a People's Open Network;
and I don't consider killer cops and crocked politicians people.

I don't think we need to discuss that possibility in our meetings, its
irrational, is divisive.

At least if the pushers are cops or working for entities that want to
dissolve the Sudoroom group.









On 3/14/14, 4:51 PM, Jake wrote:
> I guess I should go to a mesh meeting and see how interested that
> group is in a project like this.  I would be willing to talk to
> city officials to see about funding an tying it in with the mesh
> network, but i would not be surprised if there are reasons people
> wouldn't want to do it.
> 
> my perspective is that yes, city government is fucked up.  so we
> should take over and do a better job.
> 
> -jake
> 
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote:
> 
>> Very interesting! That $264,000/yr fee does seem outrageous -
>> once the system is installed, there should be relatively little
>> maintenance to keep it running.
>> 
>> I wonder if the company will be disabling or retrieving the 
>> microphones when the contract ends. It's possible the city is
>> only "leasing" the equipment. Or that the company has build in
>> some sort of self-destruct to prevent cities taking over the
>> network without them...
>> 
>> FWIW, I do think ShotSpotter is a useful technology, but it needs
>> to be designed with some ethical issues in mind (e.g. not
>> collecting and transmitting more information than is required for
>> its stated purpose). I think that Sudo Room taking over and
>> overhauling the existing network in a completely open-source
>> fashion would be a great thing to do. That way people could
>> satisfy themselves that the technology only does what it claims
>> to do.
>> 
>> Patrik
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote: what
>> do people think of the shotspotter system installed in oakland?
>> 
>> it's a network of microphones on telephone poles, each with a GPS
>> (for a precise clock) and a network connection.  When a 
>> gunshot-like sound is detected, they send the sound and its
>> precise timing to a central server that determines the location
>> of the shot, and tells the police to go there.
>> 
>> some people have expressed concern that the microphones are used 
>> to spy on people, but it would be impossible to hear a
>> conversation from the top of a telephone pole that wasnt already
>> loud enough to be heard inside nearby houses (or the phone in
>> your pocket).
>> 
>> apparently the city pays $264,000 per year to keep shotspotter 
>> going.  I think sudoroom people could do it for much less if
>> they thought it was a useful thing.  They would be discontinuing
>> it to save money, or perhaps to avoid having to send cops to do
>> actual work once in a while...
>> 
>> i mean.. sending police toward the gunfire?  sounds like a good 
>> idea...
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Oakland-cops-aim-to-scrap-gunfire-detecting-5316060.php
>>
>>
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