[sudo-discuss] [omni-consensus] Fwd: Backspace Space proposal

Wed Oct 15 21:33:12 PDT 2014

There is a list of names per room already on the wiki :)
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Floorplan#Draft_Name_Proposal

~ Korl

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Mia Bruch <virtuallymia at gmail.com> wrote:

> BAPS had our weekly meeting tonight, and we discussed the Backspace
> proposal.  BAPS members share Emji's concern about privileging a particular
> collective's use of the den, and would like it to remain a common space
> stewarded by the commons wg.
>
> Mia
>
> On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:21 PM, {emji spero} wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm excited to see this project coming together! I have a concern about
> the proposed use of the "Den." This space is perfect for working quietly,
> Public School classes, meetings, poetry readings, and other kinds of
> mid-size group events. I would like to see the upstairs commons space, The
> Den, remain a commons.
>
> I know that Omni dance had been taking steps to make the Disco room a
> space that is reservable by the hour, and I think that space is much better
> suited toward wellness practice, yoga, meditation, etc, and would suggest
> that Backspace and Omnidance be in communication about organizing the use
> of that space for these purposes.
>
> Emji
> Timeless, Infinite Light
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:42 PM, niki <niki.shelley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Great! I am excited at the prospect of more groups being open to sharing
>> spaces with one another.
>>
>> I do think it would be helpful, however, to have a baseline such as,
>> Backspace will allow for other groups to use the space no less than X% of
>> the time even if that's only 2 hours once a week.. but maybe that's too
>> bureaucratic... What happens if there's a group that has a regular meeting
>> that happens in that space once Backspace is up and running for awhile?
>> Will that group be asked to leave if Backspace decides they'd like to start
>> having a class or workshop on those evenings?
>>
>> The only reason I'm asking these questions is because I'm in that
>> building almost every day and I see that "sharing space" is going to only
>> get more and more complicated. Last night there was something happening in
>> *every* room and that was a Tuesday night! I was trying to find rooms for
>> groups to meet in that had no idea the room they usually used was occupied
>> for another event. I am hoping that we can collectively work to not only
>> create a really great system for scheduling and sharing of space, but to
>> grow a really great culture of sharing! For this reason, I think being
>> explicit might be really helpful (please tell me if you think I'm being
>> unreasonable). This way, people's expectations are clearly stated and other
>> people know what is and is not available and when.
>>
>> As far as the former TIL space is concerned, I do think that something
>> more specific needs to be worked out if that room is going to do double
>> duty as a children's space and a lockable room for body work. I have no
>> doubt we can come up with something!
>>
>> <3
>>
>> N
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Andrew Lowe <andrew at lostways.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We are talking about DEN & BDRM, BDRM [2], and STORAGE [1].
>>>
>>> To answer some of Niki's comments:
>>>
>>> - Can Backspace give an idea as to how much time / what days or evenings
>>> the "den" would be available for use by other groups? (One day a week / 10%
>>> of the time / etc.)
>>>
>>> We wont know 100% until we've been up and running for awhile. We have
>>> someone right now who is going to use that space two nights a week and
>>> certainly there will be more. While we are getting more members set up and
>>> doing some renovations the space will mostly likely be open most of the
>>> time for omni bookings, but as we grow we will be using more time in there.
>>>
>>> - The former TIL office downstairs is actually two smaller rooms which
>>> are currently being proposed as a children's space.
>>>
>>> We are aware of the proposed use as a children's space, we think that we
>>> can work out a schedule that will allow for that vision to happen as well
>>> was giving us a much needed second dedicated space with a door for
>>> practitioners that is (or will be) ADA accessible.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> By the way, I have been urging people to refer to the names on this
>>>> floorplan, to avoid confusion:
>>>>
>>>> https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Floorplan#Annotated_Floorplan
>>>>
>>>> They're kinda clinical and not really intended for conversational use,
>>>> but at least they're unique. When in doubt, include a link to the floorplan
>>>> on the wiki! For example, the spaces above the corner entrance are marked
>>>> "DEN & BDRM", "BDRM [1]" and "BDRM [2]", and the spaces between the
>>>> ballroom and the cafe are labeled "STORAGE [1]" (the one with the windows,
>>>> that Backspace wants to use) and "STORAGE [2]" (no windows - possible the
>>>> "bunker"?)
>>>>
>>>> A while back, there was talk about some WG coming up with better names
>>>> for all the spaces, but I'm not sure anything materialized out of that. If
>>>> there is a better set of names (like "bunker room" and "eyeball room"),
>>>> please put them up on the wiki somewhere, so we can avoid this kind of
>>>> confusion.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Patrik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:52 PM, yar <yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Is Backspace interested in sole use of that room, or open to the
>>>>> current
>>>>> > proposal of it being a dedicated Kids Room as well?
>>>>>
>>>>> You're thinking of a different room - we've been calling the former
>>>>> TIL office the "Kids Room." Backspace is talking about the other room
>>>>> across from that one, under the staircase, which has BAPS books in it
>>>>> now.
>>>>>
>>>>> From what I understand, they're proposing to have domain over the room
>>>>> with the understanding that it would be unlocked and usable by other
>>>>> groups whenever Backspace isn't using it. They want to do renovations
>>>>> to make it clean and safe enough for bodywork sessions, and the
>>>>> bodyworkers want to be able to have final say over the layout and
>>>>> aesthetics of the room.
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