[sudo-discuss] [backspace] Re: Backspace Space proposal

Phil Wolff pwolff at gmail.com
Thu Oct 16 17:20:02 PDT 2014


bonus points to yar for best use of retcon in a contracting context!


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On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 11:24 PM, yar <yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:

> At tonight's Sudoroom meeting, there were no major objections to BDRM2
> ("the eyeball room") becoming dedicated and lockable for Backspace, or
> to the DEN and STORAGE1 being schedulable commons where Backspace gets
> priority. The biggest concern is that the Public School would still
> have room for its evening classes, but we don't have enough info to
> speak for them obviously.
>
> Just curious - even though we all seem to be converging on a pattern
> of scheduled multi-use space, there's still this distinction between
> these rooms being "administered by Backspace" and "administered by the
> commons working group." I know Backspace prefers the former, but can
> you say a little about why, and what is the meaningful difference for
> you? Is it the worry about being scheduled out? Is it the desire for
> veto power over the layout and aesthetic of the spaces? Thanks.
>
> Lastly, Matt pointed out some issues with how the money is being framed:
>
> > We would pay $1000 per month starting in October.
>
> Is this a typo? It seems to contradict the next section.
>
> > Backspace founder Andrew Lowe put forward $6000 to the Omni for
> Backspace in May 2014. This money was paid ahead as a commitment by
> Backspace to the Omni and vice versa. We would like to allocate that money
> in the following way:
> >
> > $3000 for July Rent (first month, last month, deposit)
> > $1000 for Septemer
> > $1000 for October
> > $1000 for November
>
> Except what actually happened, was Backspace paid $2k for first month,
> $2k for last month, and $2k for deposit, and then realized later that
> they couldn't continue paying that much per month. It's not just a
> semantic problem - that $2k deposit went to the landlord, and not to
> the Omni. This pretends that Omni saw $1k that we didn't actually see.
> Also, IANAL (I Am Not A Lawyer) but it's a scary legal grey area for a
> landlord to redefine deposit money as rent money. It might be better
> to be honest about what happened instead of retconning it, and just
> say that Omni is now giving Backspace a second chance to exist at Omni
> with a grace period and a new "lease on life." Just a thought.
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