[sudo-discuss] Sudoroom electrical plans

Whitney Lawrence whitneyel3 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 5 15:14:27 PDT 2014


Jake,
I like the way you think. I can say I'm not looking forward to coordinating
with whomever/whatever is being supplied from that sub-panel, and getting
into a territorial dispute along the lines of "but we're planning on using
that". I'm OK with commandeering the panel. Also I'd prefer not to have to
move the box. Do you think its critical that the sub panel be relocated to
face into sudo? If so- so be it. Finally, I'm not sure the utilization of
the existing panel addresses the inspection concern of "those panels are
fire hazards" because I'm not familiar with the model details/differences.

Whit


On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:

> I believe the electrical panel in the balcony only supplies one or two
> things (not including the robot, which is a temporary connection)
>
> I think we should look into simply moving that breaker box down ten feet
> so it faces the server room, and be done with it.
>
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2014, Whitney Lawrence wrote:
>
>  Howdy,Let me begin with thanking you for looking at the proposal. Your
>> interpretation of the plans is
>>
>> correct.{ Main -> above stage panel -> balcony panel } is how the
>> proposed plan is drawn. There is enough room
>> in the balcony panel (which is the one located in the small room that
>> shares a wall with the server loft of
>> sudoroom) to accomplish phase 1 of the proposal. The proposal is based on
>> instruction received to minimize
>> cost. Ideally, there would be a main panel breaker that supplies a sub
>> panel for all of sudo's needs (phase 1
>> and phase 2). I can't accurately guess at a cost number for this type of
>> installation. Figure a 100amp sub
>> with hundreds of feet of 2awg plus breaker box plus breakers plus conduit
>> plus hardware. All depending on if
>> the main service can even handle the additional power demands (hiring an
>> electrician to run the calcs).
>> Ballpark $3-5k maybe- but its really a shot in the dark?
>> My experience with this type of thing is there is always a better way to
>> do it, if you go the money.
>>
>> A middle road is to plan on having the future sudo-sub panel placed near
>> the balcony panel. Build in an extra
>> 5ft or so of wire for the future transition into the new sudo-sub panel.
>> All that would be needed is to remove
>> the breakers from the old box re-run wire from J-box 1 to the new
>> sudo-sub, as well as re-routing the 240V
>> lines from the above stage panel to the sudo-sub (and of course preform
>> all the main -> suod-sub work).
>>
>> as far as existing vs proposed. only the sub panels mentioned above exist
>> currently- I'll make a note to call
>> out the existing stuff in the drawings.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Whit
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Cere Mona Davis <ceremona at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>       Hi everyone.  It's the first time I have looked at these plans and
>> I have some questions and
>>       thoughts.  Dave said he won't be able to respond to this email
>> until a couple of days as he is out
>>       in the boonies somewhere.  So I am writing in to expedite some
>> issues that I think he will likely
>>       bring up in the days ahead.
>> Whit, thanks for drawing up these plans!  For someone who is not
>> intimately familiar with our electrical
>> layout the plans might need a more clear description of existing
>> electrical vs. proposed new electrical,
>> however.
>>
>> In multiple conversations with Dave (and one on-site visit) he has
>> mentioned repeatedly that we will
>> want to shoot for putting in another sub panel for the sudoroom off of
>> the main panel as the end-game;
>> rather than daisy-chaining off of an existing panel (the balcony) as what
>> seems to be proposed here.
>> If we can't immediately put in a sub panel into the room, due to cost, we
>> should at-least be planning
>> for conduit and wiring paths, etc that allows for a sudoroom sub-panel in
>> the future.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>> -Cere
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:23 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>>
>>       Thanks Yar!  Whit can you liaise w/ Dave RE how much of the work is
>> going to be done under
>>       the first permit?
>>
>>
>>
>>       Cheers,
>>
>>       Hol
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2014-09-04 23:16, yar wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, Dave Pedroli is a certified electrician who's offered to
>> review our plans to give them an okay. I'm copying him and the people
>> who've been most involved with electrical work.
>>
>> Dave, the latest plans are attached, and also available online[1].
>> Could you please look them over and write us a few formal-sounding
>> sentences that boil down to "hello I am a real electrician and I say
>> these plans are solid"? This will help us make the landlord happy so
>> he will let us do them. Thank you!!
>>
>> [1] https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-
>> August/007369.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>> Cere Davis
>> ceremona at gmail.com
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