[sudo-discuss] Used lab equipment/furniture?

Fri Sep 5 15:39:31 PDT 2014

In the past I have seen some lab-like benches, furniture, and cabinetry at
Urban Ore. It was a while ago and no idea what they might have now.

-steve

On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Tracy,
>
> We may potentially be able to lend you some equipment, if it's just for a
> temporary exhibit. I've cc'd Matt Harbowy, who currently owns much of our
> equipment.
>
> Feel free to stop by CCL on Tuesday evening, which is when we have our
> working meetings.
>
> Patrik
>
> PS: We were just discussing the other day whether we should restart doing
> some experiments with ferrofluid!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Patrick and sudoers,
>>
>> I’m wondering if anyone knows where to get cheapish used lab equipment
>> and furniture like would be used in a bio lab?  Or some that could be
>> borrowed for a weekend?  I may need to get hold of these things for an art
>> installation.  I’d much appreciate any leads you could throw my way. I’d
>> also love to run some ideas by some biologists and get your thoughts, so I
>> plan to stop  by CCL sometime really soon.
>>
>> Tracy
>> On Sep 5, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I would also like to bring up the topic of upgrading the electrical on
>> the CCL side of the hall as well. It sounds like we may need to do all the
>> electrical permitting (and/or inspection?) at the same time anyway. So if
>> someone can give us a hand getting our upgrade plans in order, that would
>> be greatly appreciated! At the very minimum we need to make sure that the
>> Sudo upgrades don't get delayed by the slower pace of upgrades on the CCL
>> side.
>>
>> I'd love to help out with some of the hands-on work in Sudo as well, if
>> you can use some more relatively unskilled labor - we'll need to learn
>> those skills for the CCL side anyway.
>>
>> CCL hasn't been pushing ahead on electrical upgrades as quickly as Sudo,
>> since we have other construction work that needs to be done before we can
>> start plugging in a lot of our equipment. We still need to do a thorough
>> inventory of how much power we need where, but at a minimum, we will have 3
>> or 4 fridge/freezers running continuously, one oven (autoclave), plus two
>> or more microwaves and lots of other pieces of equipment that only need
>> intermittent power. We would like to install outlets all along the walls,
>> and a couple additional outlets (and maybe light fixtures) in the storage
>> rooms. And like in Sudo, the suggestion of dropping power cords down from
>> one of the rafters has come up as well...
>>
>> The CCL side of the hall is on a couple of different circuits from Sudo.
>> The black wall with all the fridges goes to a single 15A breaker in the
>> subpanel on our side of the stage, which is obviously not enough for all of
>> the equipment that is currently located along that wall. The two storage
>> rooms seem to be fed directly from the main panel in the utility room. And
>> the lights in the storage rooms may or may not go to an upstairs panel that
>> we don't currently have access to - needs some more investigation (does
>> anyone have a circuit breaker tracer we could borrow?)
>>
>> Anyone willing to give us a hand?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Patrik
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Whitney Lawrence <whitneyel3 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy,
>>> Let me begin with thanking you for looking at the proposal. Your
>>> interpretation of the plans is correct.{ Main -> above stage panel ->
>>> balcony panel } is how the proposed plan is drawn. There is enough room in
>>> the balcony panel (which is the one located in the small room that shares a
>>> wall with the server loft of sudoroom) to accomplish phase 1 of the
>>> proposal. The proposal is based on instruction received to minimize cost.
>>> Ideally, there would be a main panel breaker that supplies a sub panel for
>>> all of sudo's needs (phase 1 and phase 2). I can't accurately guess at a
>>> cost number for this type of installation. Figure a 100amp sub with
>>> hundreds of feet of 2awg plus breaker box plus breakers plus conduit plus
>>> hardware. All depending on if the main service can even handle the
>>> additional power demands (hiring an electrician to run the calcs). Ballpark
>>> $3-5k maybe- but its really a shot in the dark?
>>>
>>> My experience with this type of thing is there is always a better way to
>>> do it, if you go the money.
>>>
>>> A middle road is to plan on having the future sudo-sub panel placed near
>>> the balcony panel. Build in an extra 5ft or so of wire for the future
>>> transition into the new sudo-sub panel. All that would be needed is to
>>> remove the breakers from the old box re-run wire from J-box 1 to the new
>>> sudo-sub, as well as re-routing the 240V lines from the above stage panel
>>> to the sudo-sub (and of course preform all the main -> suod-sub work).
>>>
>>> as far as existing vs proposed. only the sub panels mentioned above
>>> exist currently- I'll make a note to call out the existing stuff in the
>>> drawings.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Whit
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Cere Mona Davis <ceremona at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone.  It's the first time I have looked at these plans and I
>>>> have some questions and thoughts.  Dave said he won't be able to respond to
>>>> this email until a couple of days as he is out in the boonies somewhere.
>>>>  So I am writing in to expedite some issues that I think he will likely
>>>> bring up in the days ahead.
>>>>
>>>> Whit, thanks for drawing up these plans!  For someone who is not
>>>> intimately familiar with our electrical layout the plans might need a more
>>>> clear description of existing electrical vs. proposed new electrical,
>>>> however.
>>>>
>>>> In multiple conversations with Dave (and one on-site visit) he has
>>>> mentioned repeatedly that we will want to shoot for putting in another sub
>>>> panel for the sudoroom off of the main panel as the end-game; rather than
>>>> daisy-chaining off of an existing panel (the balcony) as what seems to be
>>>> proposed here.   If we can't immediately put in a sub panel into the room,
>>>> due to cost, we should at-least be planning for conduit and wiring paths,
>>>> etc that allows for a sudoroom sub-panel in the future.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> -Cere
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:23 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks Yar!  Whit can you liaise w/ Dave RE how much of the work is
>>>>> going to be done under the first permit?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2014-09-04 23:16, yar wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all, Dave Pedroli is a certified electrician who's offered to
>>>>> review our plans to give them an okay. I'm copying him and the people
>>>>> who've been most involved with electrical work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave, the latest plans are attached, and also available online[1 <https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html>].
>>>>> Could you please look them over and write us a few formal-sounding
>>>>> sentences that boil down to "hello I am a real electrician and I say
>>>>> these plans are solid"? This will help us make the landlord happy so
>>>>> he will let us do them. Thank you!!
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Cere Davis
>>>> ceremona at gmail.com
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