[sudo-discuss] Used lab equipment/furniture?

Fri Sep 5 16:25:55 PDT 2014

Yeah, that one is expensive - but giant! Could easily dissect a few corpses
on that one. Uhm... if one were so inclined, naturally...

Ikea has some stainless steel table tops for $129
<http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/40115532/>. I was planning to
get one of those to try out. I think there's particle board under the
stainless steel though.

Patrik

On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical at comcast.net> wrote:

> Oh look *drool*
>
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bfd/4617365371.html
>
> This is what I want, but is that expensive for what it is?
>
> Tracy
>
> On Sep 5, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Worth checking, but I wouldn't expect too much from Urban Ore. Might get
> lucky though...
>
> We're hoping to buy a bunch of lab benches fro CCL, so if anyone sees any,
> let us know!
>
> These guys in Sunnyvale seem to have tons of lab benches, but I haven't
> had a chance to drop by there yet so I don't know what their prices look
> like:
>
>  www.btexpressliquidatorsinc.com
>
> Patrik
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Steve Berl <steveberl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In the past I have seen some lab-like benches, furniture, and cabinetry
>> at Urban Ore. It was a while ago and no idea what they might have now.
>>
>> -steve
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>
>>> We may potentially be able to lend you some equipment, if it's just for
>>> a temporary exhibit. I've cc'd Matt Harbowy, who currently owns much of our
>>> equipment.
>>>
>>> Feel free to stop by CCL on Tuesday evening, which is when we have our
>>> working meetings.
>>>
>>> Patrik
>>>
>>> PS: We were just discussing the other day whether we should restart
>>> doing some experiments with ferrofluid!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical at comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Patrick and sudoers,
>>>>
>>>> I’m wondering if anyone knows where to get cheapish used lab equipment
>>>> and furniture like would be used in a bio lab?  Or some that could be
>>>> borrowed for a weekend?  I may need to get hold of these things for an art
>>>> installation.  I’d much appreciate any leads you could throw my way. I’d
>>>> also love to run some ideas by some biologists and get your thoughts, so I
>>>> plan to stop  by CCL sometime really soon.
>>>>
>>>> Tracy
>>>> On Sep 5, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I would also like to bring up the topic of upgrading the electrical on
>>>> the CCL side of the hall as well. It sounds like we may need to do all the
>>>> electrical permitting (and/or inspection?) at the same time anyway. So if
>>>> someone can give us a hand getting our upgrade plans in order, that would
>>>> be greatly appreciated! At the very minimum we need to make sure that the
>>>> Sudo upgrades don't get delayed by the slower pace of upgrades on the CCL
>>>> side.
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to help out with some of the hands-on work in Sudo as well, if
>>>> you can use some more relatively unskilled labor - we'll need to learn
>>>> those skills for the CCL side anyway.
>>>>
>>>> CCL hasn't been pushing ahead on electrical upgrades as quickly as
>>>> Sudo, since we have other construction work that needs to be done before we
>>>> can start plugging in a lot of our equipment. We still need to do a
>>>> thorough inventory of how much power we need where, but at a minimum, we
>>>> will have 3 or 4 fridge/freezers running continuously, one oven
>>>> (autoclave), plus two or more microwaves and lots of other pieces of
>>>> equipment that only need  intermittent power. We would like to install
>>>> outlets all along the walls, and a couple additional outlets (and maybe
>>>> light fixtures) in the storage rooms. And like in Sudo, the suggestion of
>>>> dropping power cords down from one of the rafters has come up as well...
>>>>
>>>> The CCL side of the hall is on a couple of different circuits from
>>>> Sudo. The black wall with all the fridges goes to a single 15A breaker in
>>>> the subpanel on our side of the stage, which is obviously not enough for
>>>> all of the equipment that is currently located along that wall. The two
>>>> storage rooms seem to be fed directly from the main panel in the utility
>>>> room. And the lights in the storage rooms may or may not go to an upstairs
>>>> panel that we don't currently have access to - needs some more
>>>> investigation (does anyone have a circuit breaker tracer we could borrow?)
>>>>
>>>> Anyone willing to give us a hand?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Patrik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Whitney Lawrence <whitneyel3 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>> Let me begin with thanking you for looking at the proposal. Your
>>>>> interpretation of the plans is correct.{ Main -> above stage panel ->
>>>>> balcony panel } is how the proposed plan is drawn. There is enough room in
>>>>> the balcony panel (which is the one located in the small room that shares a
>>>>> wall with the server loft of sudoroom) to accomplish phase 1 of the
>>>>> proposal. The proposal is based on instruction received to minimize cost.
>>>>> Ideally, there would be a main panel breaker that supplies a sub panel for
>>>>> all of sudo's needs (phase 1 and phase 2). I can't accurately guess at a
>>>>> cost number for this type of installation. Figure a 100amp sub with
>>>>> hundreds of feet of 2awg plus breaker box plus breakers plus conduit plus
>>>>> hardware. All depending on if the main service can even handle the
>>>>> additional power demands (hiring an electrician to run the calcs). Ballpark
>>>>> $3-5k maybe- but its really a shot in the dark?
>>>>>
>>>>> My experience with this type of thing is there is always a better way
>>>>> to do it, if you go the money.
>>>>>
>>>>> A middle road is to plan on having the future sudo-sub panel placed
>>>>> near the balcony panel. Build in an extra 5ft or so of wire for the future
>>>>> transition into the new sudo-sub panel. All that would be needed is to
>>>>> remove the breakers from the old box re-run wire from J-box 1 to the new
>>>>> sudo-sub, as well as re-routing the 240V lines from the above stage panel
>>>>> to the sudo-sub (and of course preform all the main -> suod-sub work).
>>>>>
>>>>> as far as existing vs proposed. only the sub panels mentioned above
>>>>> exist currently- I'll make a note to call out the existing stuff in the
>>>>> drawings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Whit
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Cere Mona Davis <ceremona at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone.  It's the first time I have looked at these plans and I
>>>>>> have some questions and thoughts.  Dave said he won't be able to respond to
>>>>>> this email until a couple of days as he is out in the boonies somewhere.
>>>>>>  So I am writing in to expedite some issues that I think he will likely
>>>>>> bring up in the days ahead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whit, thanks for drawing up these plans!  For someone who is not
>>>>>> intimately familiar with our electrical layout the plans might need a more
>>>>>> clear description of existing electrical vs. proposed new electrical,
>>>>>> however.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In multiple conversations with Dave (and one on-site visit) he has
>>>>>> mentioned repeatedly that we will want to shoot for putting in another sub
>>>>>> panel for the sudoroom off of the main panel as the end-game; rather than
>>>>>> daisy-chaining off of an existing panel (the balcony) as what seems to be
>>>>>> proposed here.   If we can't immediately put in a sub panel into the room,
>>>>>> due to cost, we should at-least be planning for conduit and wiring paths,
>>>>>> etc that allows for a sudoroom sub-panel in the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>> -Cere
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:23 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Thanks Yar!  Whit can you liaise w/ Dave RE how much of the work
>>>>>>> is going to be done under the first permit?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2014-09-04 23:16, yar wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all, Dave Pedroli is a certified electrician who's offered to
>>>>>>> review our plans to give them an okay. I'm copying him and the people
>>>>>>> who've been most involved with electrical work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave, the latest plans are attached, and also available online[1 <https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html>].
>>>>>>> Could you please look them over and write us a few formal-sounding
>>>>>>> sentences that boil down to "hello I am a real electrician and I say
>>>>>>> these plans are solid"? This will help us make the landlord happy so
>>>>>>> he will let us do them. Thank you!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> Cere Davis
>>>>>> ceremona at gmail.com
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