[sudo-discuss] Today 4/4/15: Pidgen and Daren have been temp banned for safer spaces policy violations

[Torrie Fischer]

Theres community issues, then theres "issues that involve the hundreds of 
people subscribed to sudo-discuss".

This is not one of those issues. I have no involvement with this. I don't want 
to get involved with this. I'd honestly rather not hear about who is fighting 
who, or see people tearing down each other in public. I'd rather just hack a 
thing and assume that Sudo Room is a happy cheery place that has their shit 
together and everyone gets along.

My Ƀ0.02.

On Saturday, April 04, 2015 03:37:39 PM WIld Cat wrote:
> These are community issues not personal issues.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical at comcast.net> wrote:
> > Sudoers,
> > 
> > Respectfully can I suggest that you find another way to address issues of
> > a personal nature and character assassinations or public shaming other
> > than
> > this public mailing list?  Why anyone would want to go to Sudo room after
> > reading this  mailing list is beyond my comprehension.  And it really is a
> > great place.  Can anyone think of another venue for these types of
> > discussions?
> > 
> > Tracy
> > On Apr 4, 2015, at 2:41 PM, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Daren returned to the space about 20 mins after trying to re-enter and
> > said to me " Do you want to go a couplwe blocks away from here and handle
> > this like an adult."
> > 
> > Pidgen is claiming that I threatened her and I did tell her that "you need
> > to chill out or some shit is going to happen" but I also clarified by
> > saying "I am not threatening you with any form of violence."
> > 
> > Darin is claiming that Babs sexually assaulted someone but Darin did not
> > give any details of what happened.
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:00 PM, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods at gmail.com>
> > 
> > wrote:
> >> Today Pidgen was asked to leave in violation of the safer spaces policy
> >> on an admitted account of sexual assault in the past as well as recent
> >> behaviors of harassment. Daren was asked to leave in violation of the
> >> safer
> >> spaces policy by aggressive  behavior (aggressive swearing, intentional
> >> misgendering, inappropriate sexual comments (Told me in an aggressive way
> >> that he liked phone sex, than began to yell at me.) He has had a history
> >> of
> >> being banned from spaces for similar behaviors of sexual harassment and
> >> inappropriate behavior.
> >> 
> >> I would like to begin a mediation process for Daren and I do not feel
> >> safe with him being in the space during such process.
> >> 
> >> To my knowledge there is an ongoing mediation between Pidgen and Centi.
> >> that Pidgen has allegedly violated due to harassing behavior. Pidgen has
> >> been banned from several other radical spaces for entitlement problems -
> >> theft - aggressive behaivor - accountability issues.
> >> I do not feel safe in the presences of Pidgen and would call on the
> >> community to permanently ban Pidgen.
> > 
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