[sudo-discuss] ian moon banned

[Robb Anonymous]

great idea mary. we are not perfect judges & could libel someone
inadvertently. ~r

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Mary Ward <maryhbw at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All:
>
> I am concerned about posting peoples faces publicly on the Omni site. I
> suggest a physical book on the premises instead. The reasons for this are
> due to the slanderous nature of publicly posted bans and that most of those
> who were banned are banned without due process.
>
> I realize that the space must be policed in order to function, but I think
> we should think about the rights of the banned persons because they are
> people with feelings, too.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Mary Ward
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:34 PM, niki <niki.shelley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> These concerns (access to space, Omni membership, etc.) are ones that I
>> imagine will be addressed in the upcoming visioning / planning process.
>>
>> It's my understanding that this process could potentially result in a
>> more top-down restructuring of the management of the Omni with little to no
>> required buy-in from the individual collectives.
>>
>> I am not a part of the visioning / planning facilitation team so I don't
>> know too much about what's been discussed thus far but people who are
>> interested in what the future of the Omni looks like, organizationally,
>> should participate in this process.
>>
>> N
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Robb Anonymous <sf99er at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> there seems to be ambiguity about james moon's ban, to wit: i was
>>> informed that his membership was block but that he was not ever banned. if
>>> i was misinformed please clarify.
>>>
>>> as to jeremy, *the senate* ;) told me he had some issues a while back
>>> (online abusive rants?) and that his membership was questionable.
>>>
>>> is it ok to take someone's photo if they are about to be asked to leave
>>> or banned?
>>>
>>> @jake, your concern for people burning out who have to deal with this
>>> stuff is greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> thx yar, i will register with omni-discuss & omni-mediation so i can tx
>>> the most appropriate lists.
>>> ~r
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> i think we need to work on more practical and effective ways to keep
>>>> the space free of banned persons at all times.
>>>>
>>>> what can people do when a banned person repeatedly returns whenever
>>>> they feel like they can get in?  there are no consequences for trying.
>>>>
>>>> I know that we do not call police for these types of issues, but what
>>>> about telling people that if they return again, the police will be called
>>>> and they will not know it until a cop shows up to grab them?
>>>>
>>>> Does that go against our values?  If so, what is a reasonable motivator
>>>> to get people to stop returning all the time?
>>>>
>>>> If the response is "we just need to keep leaning on members and
>>>> volunteers to constantly beg trespassers to leave again" i fear that we are
>>>> going to burn people out faster than we can replace them.
>>>>
>>>> -jake
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015, Stephen Whitmore wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if you're aware of it, but Omni/sudo
>>>>> has https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Asked_to_Leave. Photograph existence
>>>>> varies wildly, of
>>>>> course.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>       Ah - so he was already banned anyway,  but was still coming in?
>>>>>
>>>>>       You know,  I have a really hard time putting names to faces. It
>>>>> would be
>>>>>       extremely useful if we actually had photographs of the people
>>>>> that are
>>>>>       banned, similar to noisebridges 86 page. That way we might
>>>>> actually have some
>>>>>       hope of enforcing the bans already in place...
>>>>>
>>>>>       Patrik
>>>>>
>>>>>       On Aug 25, 2015 1:15 PM, "yar" <yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>             On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:10 PM, yar <yardenack at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>             > hackerspace inside the Omni, and it sounds like the
>>>>> people
>>>>>             involved
>>>>>             > were not Sudoroom members nor did they claim to be, and
>>>>> the
>>>>>             events
>>>>>
>>>>>             Actually I stand corrected, James Moon applied to be a
>>>>> Sudoroom
>>>>>             member
>>>>>             a couple months ago, before he went on a yelling spree that
>>>>>             scared a
>>>>>             bunch of people away, and was then blocked from membership
>>>>> and
>>>>>             banned.
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