[sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] ian moon banned

Tue Aug 25 15:34:34 PDT 2015

would preventing the "Asked to Leave" page from being indexed by search
engines be sufficient?

Maintaining a book in a physical space sounds like a much harder thing
to maintain, with the result that it could be sufficiently out of date
to be of no use.

>From experience it's the most recently asked to leave folks that you
have to worry the most about, but once they realise that they're known
to the space and that folks know that they're not welcome they generally
abate.

p

Mary Ward:
> Hi All:
> 
> I am concerned about posting peoples faces publicly on the Omni site. I
> suggest a physical book on the premises instead. The reasons for this are
> due to the slanderous nature of publicly posted bans and that most of those
> who were banned are banned without due process.
> 
> I realize that the space must be policed in order to function, but I think
> we should think about the rights of the banned persons because they are
> people with feelings, too.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Mary Ward
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:34 PM, niki <niki.shelley at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> These concerns (access to space, Omni membership, etc.) are ones that I
>> imagine will be addressed in the upcoming visioning / planning process.
>>
>> It's my understanding that this process could potentially result in a more
>> top-down restructuring of the management of the Omni with little to no
>> required buy-in from the individual collectives.
>>
>> I am not a part of the visioning / planning facilitation team so I don't
>> know too much about what's been discussed thus far but people who are
>> interested in what the future of the Omni looks like, organizationally,
>> should participate in this process.
>>
>> N
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Robb Anonymous <sf99er at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> there seems to be ambiguity about james moon's ban, to wit: i was
>>> informed that his membership was block but that he was not ever banned. if
>>> i was misinformed please clarify.
>>>
>>> as to jeremy, *the senate* ;) told me he had some issues a while back
>>> (online abusive rants?) and that his membership was questionable.
>>>
>>> is it ok to take someone's photo if they are about to be asked to leave
>>> or banned?
>>>
>>> @jake, your concern for people burning out who have to deal with this
>>> stuff is greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> thx yar, i will register with omni-discuss & omni-mediation so i can tx
>>> the most appropriate lists.
>>> ~r
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> i think we need to work on more practical and effective ways to keep the
>>>> space free of banned persons at all times.
>>>>
>>>> what can people do when a banned person repeatedly returns whenever they
>>>> feel like they can get in?  there are no consequences for trying.
>>>>
>>>> I know that we do not call police for these types of issues, but what
>>>> about telling people that if they return again, the police will be called
>>>> and they will not know it until a cop shows up to grab them?
>>>>
>>>> Does that go against our values?  If so, what is a reasonable motivator
>>>> to get people to stop returning all the time?
>>>>
>>>> If the response is "we just need to keep leaning on members and
>>>> volunteers to constantly beg trespassers to leave again" i fear that we are
>>>> going to burn people out faster than we can replace them.
>>>>
>>>> -jake
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015, Stephen Whitmore wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if you're aware of it, but Omni/sudo
>>>>> has https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Asked_to_Leave. Photograph existence
>>>>> varies wildly, of
>>>>> course.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>       Ah - so he was already banned anyway,  but was still coming in?
>>>>>
>>>>>       You know,  I have a really hard time putting names to faces. It
>>>>> would be
>>>>>       extremely useful if we actually had photographs of the people
>>>>> that are
>>>>>       banned, similar to noisebridges 86 page. That way we might
>>>>> actually have some
>>>>>       hope of enforcing the bans already in place...
>>>>>
>>>>>       Patrik
>>>>>
>>>>>       On Aug 25, 2015 1:15 PM, "yar" <yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>             On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:10 PM, yar <yardenack at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>             > hackerspace inside the Omni, and it sounds like the people
>>>>>             involved
>>>>>             > were not Sudoroom members nor did they claim to be, and
>>>>> the
>>>>>             events
>>>>>
>>>>>             Actually I stand corrected, James Moon applied to be a
>>>>> Sudoroom
>>>>>             member
>>>>>             a couple months ago, before he went on a yelling spree that
>>>>>             scared a
>>>>>             bunch of people away, and was then blocked from membership
>>>>> and
>>>>>             banned.
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