[sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] All kitchen appliances moved to Sudo, due to kitchen electrical issue

Steve Bloom stevebloom55 at gmail.com
Thu Feb 5 17:59:30 PST 2015


Hmm, it wasn't doing that for at least a couple days after I made the
change, after which note there was less load on the circuit than before
(IOW the hall lights and LC extension are now on different circuits,
although the kitchen appliances would still have been the vast majority of
the load)..  But it is a different breaker than before, so maybe something
to do with that.  They can go bad like this.  (Did you try just replacing
the breaker?)  It's also possible that one of the appliances started
drawing more power afterwards due to having developed some defect.  Another
possibility is that the hot water pot, the garbage disposal, the microwave
and the toaster oven have been getting turned on at once.  That will
absolutely be enough to blow the breaker.  Three together might even do
it.  In any case, something seems to have changed more recently.  But
please do let me know what the electrician says.  Troubleshooting this sort
of thing can be tricky.

Also, is there a GFI in the kitchen (code issue if not)?  It hadn't
occurred to me before to look, but now I wonder why the panel breaker has
been tripping instead of it.

David, speaking of those breakers, I noticed last night that the
decommissioned ones still hadn't been removed or at least taped off as you
said you would do immediately following our conversation mid-day Monday.
Presumably you can have the electrician take care of that as well.

To remind you, the other problem with that circuit (current #7) is that den
lights (at least, maybe some receptacles involved too?) is also attached to
that circuit, and should be split off ASAP.  I realize you won't have had
time to look at that after you insisted I stop the work I was part-way
through.  That's also a code issue as you know, even if it has nothing to
do with the current problem.  The electrician again, perhaps, although it
might be a real pain locating where the circuits were joined.

I wouldn't normally have mentioned you by name in this context on an open
list, but I'm following your example.  Thanks so much for making it clear
how to proceed properly, and for all your efforts.

-- Steve

On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:17 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Following subsequent reports of a burning smell and the #7 (ex-#8) still
> breaker tripping constantly I am leaving #7 off - please leave it off for
> now until it can be assessed by a pro..
>
> Thx,
> David
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:01 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> All electrical appliances (toasters, microwave, hot water maker) in the
>> kitchen have been temporarily moved to Sudo Room, following the electrical
>> breaker powering the upstairs & la commune tripping with increasing
>> regularity.
>>
>> This circuit powering the kitchen used to be on breaker #8 of the
>> subpanel in Rise Above (west wall), now it is on #7 moved by Steve Bloom.
>> Unfo it's now tripping way more than it een used to before, and hi-amp
>> appliances in the kitchen such as toasters etc almost immediately trip the
>> circuit. At this point this is a hazardous condition and an electricians
>> are being called to try and resolve this.
>>
>> Please do not put any of these appliances back into the kitchen circuit
>> until this electrical problem has been addressed. And contact me if anyone
>> has any questions. Thank you :)
>>
>> Best,
>> David
>>
>
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