[sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Elliot Hughes

[Karissa McKelvey]

There needs to be clear guidelines surrounding who can access the
commons otherwise the commons deteriorates.

If someone breaks a rule, they should be subject to consequences.

Is there no policy guideline surrounding physical violence in this commons??

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I am regularly moved by the sudo room community's compassion.
>
> However, allow me to re-iterate a selection of my original message, facts
> and my personal positions that have not changed:
>
>> this is the second time in our new location (I was present the first time)
>> ... of Elliot escalating a situation to a physical, even violent, response
>> on his part.
>
>
> We must differentiate patterns of behavior from isolated incidents. This is
> a pattern, and I think it reasonable to anticipate the risk of repeat
> behavior.
>
>> I am no longer willing to tolerate this behavior
>
>
> Nor do I believe anyone should.
>
>> [Elliot's continued participation is] ... a greater cost, and even greater
>> potential risk, than a revocation of his privilege to use the space.
>
>
> Consequences are hard to deal with, but we, as individuals, must hold
> ourselves and each other responsible for our actions.
>
> It has become more and more obvious to me that when individuals take
> advantage of their access to the commons, it is most critical for our
> community to act as stewards, to show resolve that such behavior will not be
> tolerated, and that paths to reconciliation begin with recognizing that, if
> necessary, the privilege to access the commons can, and will, be taken away.
>
> // Matt
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The path forward for those interested in pursuing this issue is to put it
>> on the sudoroom meeting agenda, and show up prepared to discuss a proposal.
>> No one involved in this issue was present at the sudo room meeting last
>> night. In all honesty we could really use more participation in those
>> meetings by regular members other than Marc, myself and Matt.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jenny
>>
>> On 01/15/2015 11:51 AM, Eske Silver wrote:
>> > Thanks for the comments, and update.
>> > Hopefully we'll figure out how to go about finding a solution for this.
>> >
>> > ~ Korl
>> >
>> > 500px.com/eske
>> > 510.689.4484
>> > On Jan 15, 2015 11:47 AM, "Ryan" <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Nothing was brought up at the meeting.
>> > > On Jan 15, 2015 11:47 AM, "Ryan" <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I fully support that with no edits, korl. I think it is full of
>> > >> compassion and care for everyone.
>> > >> On Jan 15, 2015 11:44 AM, "Eske Silver" <eske.silver at gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Sent this a couple days go, but I forgot to hit 'reply all':
>> > >>>
>> > >>> True, though, that we have parted ways with members, and guests, for
>> > >>> less than [multiple physical incidents?] - comrade or not.
>> > >>> While case-by-case is my prefered language, I also always stand by a
>> > >>> Zero Tolerance for abuse toward another loving being.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> From what I've read, this seems the logical mean answer:
>> > >>> For the sake of Safer Spaces, let's ask that Elliot appreciate a
>> > >>> request
>> > >>> that they take leave, until we find a resolution...
>> > >>> For the sake of nuance and case-by-case, I'd bet we could find
>> > >>> someone
>> > >>> who's known Elliot for a handful of human time increments, who would
>> > >>> be so
>> > >>> kind as to reach out to Elliot. This person might then glean what's
>> > >>> going
>> > >>> on with Elliot, and how he feels we (all) should/can procede with
>> > >>> these
>> > >>> issues.
>> > >>> Then, for the sake of precident, if Elliot is willing and able, we
>> > >>> can
>> > >>> follow the guide and set on to conflict resolution...
>> > >>> The rest is (in theory) easy, I'd say.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Any edits?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> ~ Korl
>> > >>>
>> > >>> ~ Korl
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 500px.com/eske
>> > >>> 510.689.4484
>> > >>>
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