[sudo-discuss] [omni-finance] [omni-discuss] finance-wg report back

Autonomous autonomous666 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 29 20:38:16 PDT 2015


I don't know the specific codes in Oakland but <100 people generally means
it's a "private party" with no special permission needed. You could get
away with much more if there aren't many people milling about outside.

4 events per month x 99 attendees x $20 cover charge = $7920/mo gross
income.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Berry Maker <berrythemaker at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Agreed! Several edm event coordinator friends have asked me about this.
> I've heard holding this type of event at Omni is be tricky atm though.
> Oakland needs more edm events.
> On Oct 29, 2015 8:07 PM, "Autonomous" <autonomous666 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hosting EDM events in the ballroom could more than make up for the cash
>> flow shortage:
>>
>> http://www.sfbayedm.com/
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:00 PM, robb <sf99er at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ugg, $2k additional expenses :(
>>>
>>> i really feel renting the common spaces is our only sustainable & viable
>>> option at this point...along with hosting our own fundraiser events.
>>>
>>> maybe if we had a prodution collective responsible for optimizing teh
>>> commons for events, we could get more for them ;)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Off the top of my head, here are some numbers...
>>>>
>>>> Monthly income from collectives:
>>>> Collective/TenantRentUtilitiesBAPS1000NSudo2000YCCL2000YPhat Beets750YRise
>>>> Above600YTIL300YDurga Press75NPublication Studio 100NVouched Books75N
>>>> MPM600YFNB0NLL100NLM300N
>>>> GWS350?CDP (meets weekly)
>>>> 50NTotal83006-7 Y
>>>> Utilities are split evenly among the 6-7 collectives that contribute,
>>>> roughly $375 each (or $2250-2625).
>>>>
>>>> I don't have definitive numbers for event rentals, but it's somewhere
>>>> between $2-4K/month.
>>>>
>>>> Current rent as of November is $15,281 as our 12 month $1000 monthly
>>>> rebate has just expired. This number includes property insurance, property
>>>> tax, business tax and waste management charges. Adding the above utilities
>>>> (gas / electric / water) our total monthly expenses are on the order of
>>>> $18K/month.
>>>>
>>>> We will be losing an additional $1K/month after Rise Above leaves in
>>>> December.
>>>>
>>>> Jenny
>>>>
>>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>>>
>>>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>>>> -Laurie Anderson
>>>>
>>>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
>>>> it."
>>>>  -Hannah Arendt
>>>>
>>>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
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>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Laura Turiano <scylla at riseup.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There is often a finance report at the delegates meetings. Here is a
>>>>> link to the last one which answers many of your questions.
>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2015/10/15_Delegates_Meeting#Financial_Report_Back
>>>>>
>>>>> The kickstarter money is pretty much spent (and was specifically for
>>>>> building improvements not for rent) and we haven't gotten any grants in
>>>>> while.
>>>>> Laura
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/28/15 12:57 PM, yar wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Andrew cardoza <threve35 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are there any calculations of how much money we would need to raise
>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>> following months? if so, what will be the monthly goals?
>>>>>>> Also, what are we currently raising per month?
>>>>>>> What is the shortfall?
>>>>>>> where is the money coming from?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> events?
>>>>>>> from collectives?
>>>>>>> that kickstarter?
>>>>>>> grants?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who do I ask, if no one responds to these inquiries?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just for the record, the best place to ask these questions is the
>>>>>> Omni's finance working group mailing list, which I've CC'd here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> finance at lists.omnicommons.org
>>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/finance
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