[sudo-discuss] Need hardware USB sniffer!

robb sf99er at gmail.com
Thu Apr 28 08:17:42 PDT 2016


would a bus pirate work?
i have you can use

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>    1. the omni commoner is looking awesome!!! (Romy Ilano)
>    2. LCD video display thingy (Jake)
>    3. High voltage probes (Cere Davis)
>    4. Re: High voltage probes (Cere Davis)
>    5. Re: High voltage probes (Jake)
>    6. Suggest Omni for Bay Area Bike Share station (Patrik D'haeseleer)
>    7. Re: Suggest Omni for Bay Area Bike Share station
>       (Patrik D'haeseleer)
>    8. Re: [CCL] Re: Suggest Omni for Bay Area Bike Share        station
>       (cere.yahoo at gmail.com)
>    9. Invoice 1310 from Omni Commons (Omni Commons)
>   10. Re: Invoice 1310 from Omni Commons (Jenny Ryan)
>   11. Need hardware USB sniffer! (Marc Juul)
>   12. Re: Need hardware USB sniffer! (Jake)
>   13. Re: Need hardware USB sniffer! (Marc Juul)
>   14. Need UI/UX designer/implementer for synthetic     biology project
>       (Marc Juul)
>   15. Re: Need hardware USB sniffer! (Jake)
>   16. Re: air compressor and plasma cutter (Jake)
>   17. Re: air compressor and plasma cutter (Marc Juul)
>   18. Re: air compressor and plasma cutter (Cere Misc)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 17:20:49 -0700
> From: Romy Ilano <romy at snowyla.com>
> To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] the omni commoner is looking awesome!!!
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> wow! love it!
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> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 23:13:30 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> To: sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] LCD video display thingy
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> my friend found one of these in the trash:
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>
> http://www.glorystargroup.com/ClientFolder/glorystar2014/Library/Tree/pdf_Specification/GAD/GAD073_P.pdf
>
> it has a 2GB SD card in it that seems to have gone bad but otherwise i
> think it works.  I have the big plastic display thing it was mounted in,
> so we can put it on a wall somewhere and have it play whatever video you
> want in a loop.  It has speakers too if you want it to be really annoying.
>
> if anyone wants it let me know, otherwise i'll stick it in the vending
> machine.
>
> -jake
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 16:44:30 -0700
> From: Cere Davis <ceremona at gmail.com>
> To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] High voltage probes
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> Does anybody have a pair i can borrow?
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> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 16:45:34 -0700
> From: Cere Davis <ceremona at gmail.com>
> To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] High voltage probes
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> For an oscope.  In case that wasnt clear.
> On Apr 25, 2016 4:44 PM, "Cere Davis" <ceremona at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Does anybody have a pair i can borrow?
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> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 19:04:35 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> To: Cere Davis <ceremona at gmail.com>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
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> a pair?  you need two?  or one ground-referenced probe?  what voltage?
>
> -jake
>
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016, Cere Davis wrote:
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> >
> > For an oscope.  In case that wasnt clear.
> >
> > On Apr 25, 2016 4:44 PM, "Cere Davis" <ceremona at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >       Does anybody have a pair i can borrow?
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 23:31:59 -0700
> From: "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd at gmail.com>
> To: "discuss at lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss at lists.omnicommons.org>,
>         sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>,
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> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Suggest Omni for Bay Area Bike Share station
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> Bay Area Bike Share <http://www.bayareabikeshare.com/> is about to install
> a number of bike share stations in the East Bay. You can suggest locations
> here:
>
> http://suggest.bayareabikeshare.com/
>
> I think it would be great to have a bike share station in front of the
> Omni. If we can get enough people to vote for it, that might actually
> happen...
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 02:46:06 -0700
> From: "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd at gmail.com>
> To: "discuss at lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss at lists.omnicommons.org>,
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> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Suggest Omni for Bay Area Bike Share
>         station
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> Actually, looks like they already have a list of proposed stations, and one
> of them is planned for a block from the Omni, on Shattuck between 46 and
> 47th:
>
> http://www.bayareabikeshare.com/assets/pdf/Proposed_East_Bay.pdf
>
> Patrik
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:31 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > Bay Area Bike Share <http://www.bayareabikeshare.com/> is about to
> > install a number of bike share stations in the East Bay. You can suggest
> > locations here:
> >
> > http://suggest.bayareabikeshare.com/
> >
> > I think it would be great to have a bike share station in front of the
> > Omni. If we can get enough people to vote for it, that might actually
> > happen...
> >
> > Patrik
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 08:53:00 -0700
> From: cere.yahoo at gmail.com
> To: "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd at gmail.com>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>,
>         "discuss at lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss at lists.omnicommons.org>,
>         "counterculturelabs at googlegroups.com"
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> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] [CCL] Re: Suggest Omni for Bay Area Bike
>         Share   station
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> Here's the direct link to the location right at Omni so all you need to do
> is select the "support" bar below the map.
>
> http://suggest.bayareabikeshare.com/place/355329
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 2:46 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > Actually, looks like they already have a list of proposed stations, and
> > one of them is planned for a block from the Omni, on Shattuck between 46
> > and 47th:
> >
> > http://www.bayareabikeshare.com/assets/pdf/Proposed_East_Bay.pdf
> >
> > Patrik
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:31 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Bay Area Bike Share <http://www.bayareabikeshare.com/> is about to
> >> install a number of bike share stations in the East Bay. You can suggest
> >> locations here:
> >>
> >> http://suggest.bayareabikeshare.com/
> >>
> >> I think it would be great to have a bike share station in front of the
> >> Omni. If we can get enough people to vote for it, that might actually
> >> happen...
> >>
> >> Patrik
> >>
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> Cere Davis
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> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 13:59:00 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Omni Commons <quickbooks-email at intuit.com>
> To: tunabananas at gmail.com, juul at labitat.dk,
>         sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org,  tunabananas at gmail.com
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Invoice 1310 from Omni Commons
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> Dear Sudo Room,
>
> Here's your invoice! We appreciate your prompt payment.
>
> Thanks for stewarding the commons!
> Omni Oakland
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------   Invoice Summary  --------------------------
> Invoice # : 1310
> Invoice Date: 04/01/2016
> Due Date: 05/01/2016
> Terms: Net 10
> Amount Due: $2,000.00
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> The complete version has been provided as an attachment to this email.
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> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 15:06:06 -0700
> From: Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com>
> To: "info at omnicommons.org" <info at omnicommons.org>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Invoice 1310 from Omni Commons
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> Paid $1500 of this so far - one-time donations appreciated, just click on
> the Invoice link to make a payment!
>
> Jenny
>
> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
> https://omnicommons.org/donate
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> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Omni Commons <quickbooks-email at intuit.com
> >
> wrote:
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> > Omni Commons
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> > INVOICE
> >
> > 1310
> >
> > DUE DATE
> >
> > 05/01/2016
> >
> > BALANCE DUE
> >
> > $2,000.00
> > View invoice
> > <
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> >
> > Dear Sudo Room,
> >
> > Here's your invoice! We appreciate your prompt payment.
> >
> > Thanks for stewarding the commons!
> > Omni Oakland
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> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 18:03:18 -0700
> From: Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk>
> To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>,  NoiseBridge
>         Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Need hardware USB sniffer!
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> I'm trying to reverse-engineer the communication between a USB OTG device
> and an android app.
>
> Does anyone have a "Beagle USB 12" or similar device that I might be able
> to borrow for a couple of hours?
>
> Or failing that, does anyone have an android device with usbmon enabled in
> the kernel?
>
> I can meet you at your hackerspace of choice. Will bring beer :)
>
> --
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 20:15:33 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> To: Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>, NoiseBridge
>         Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Need hardware USB sniffer!
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> i have a facedancer you can use!
>
> -jake
>
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Marc Juul wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to reverse-engineer the communication between a USB OTG
> device and an android app.
> >
> > Does anyone have a "Beagle USB 12" or similar device that I might be
> able to borrow for a couple of
> > hours?
> >
> > Or failing that, does anyone have an android device with usbmon enabled
> in the kernel?
> >
> > I can meet you at your hackerspace of choice. Will bring beer :)
> >
> > --
> > marc/juul
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 18:18:25 -0700
> From: Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk>
> To: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>, NoiseBridge
>         Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Need hardware USB sniffer!
> Message-ID:
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> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>
> > i have a facedancer you can use!
> >
>
> Hm. I don't think that will work. I have a piece of software talking to a
> piece of hardware and I need to monitor and reverse-engineer the protocol.
> I don't think the facedancer can do that?
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 18:41:36 -0700
> From: Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk>
> To: noisebridge-jobs at lists.noisebridge.net,  sudo-discuss
>         <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>,  Counter Culture Labs Members
>         <cclmembers at googlegroups.com>, biocurious
>         <biocurious at googlegroups.com>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Need UI/UX designer/implementer for synthetic
>         biology project
> Message-ID:
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> Hi! I'm working on a project to develop an open source decentralized system
> for sharing biological samples (DNA, strains, etc). Think decentralized
> github + inventory tracking + biological sneakernet :)
>
> I'm doing the client and server side javascript but we need someone to help
> us with the UI/UX design and implementation.
>
> Let me know if you're interested and we can meet up somewhere.
>
> Formal description below.
> ------
>
> # Description​
>
> Work with the bionet team to develop UI/UX for web app aimed at
> facilitating the  decentralized sharing of open source physical biological
> materials (DNA, strains, etc). Work will include developing web app look
> and feel through communication with the rest of the team, sketching
> wireframes, building mockups and implementing a UI for the web app using
> HTML and CSS (no javascript).
>
> # Time commitment
>
> Part-time employed position for now.
>
> # Start date
>
> Immediate.
>
> # About the team​
>
> We're a small team of six dedicated humans working on aspects of the
> project
> ranging from wetware and legal to hardware and software. You will work
> closely with our software lead to integrate UI with frontend/backend
> functionality, and collaborate with all team­members on aspects of the app
> as they relate to their respective areas of expertise.
>
> # Software details​
>
> The project is new and development on the first prototype is underway but
> in
> its early stages. All code is being released under open source licenses.
> The software stack is nodejs + leveldb + browserify using modules and ideas
> for decentralized/offline web apps developed by folks including substack,
> mafintosh, dominictarr and maxogden. Focus is on development and re­use of
> small modular components rather than reliance on existing frameworks.
>
> # Skills​
>
> UI/UX design experience. Extensive experience with modern web app front­end
> html+css development for both desktop and mobile. Experience with
> development of custom graphical UI assets. Basic command line experience
> and ability to use git/github a plus. Javascript experience a plus but
> definitely not required. Experience with open source development a plus.
>
> # About The BioBricks Foundation​
>
> Our mission is to ensure that the engineering of biology is conducted in an
> open and ethical manner to benefit all people and the planet.
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 03:27:32 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> To: Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>, NoiseBridge
>         Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Need hardware USB sniffer!
> Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.20.1604270326300.91568 at pe710.spaz.org>
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> the facedancer lets you pretend to be the piece of hardware.  so you can
> plug the real hardware into your computer, and then pass along everything
> it says and does through the facedancer to the app, and that lets you be
> the man in the middle of the USB conversation.
>
> -jake
>
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Marc Juul wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> >       i have a facedancer you can use!
> >
> >
> > Hm. I don't think that will work. I have a piece of software talking to
> a piece of hardware and I need to monitor and reverse-engineer the
> protocol. I don't think the facedancer can do that?
> >
> > --
> > marc/juul
> >
> >
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 03:44:26 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> To: hol at gaskill.com
> Cc: sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org, elisabethlizardbreath at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] air compressor and plasma cutter
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> BUMP
>
> we got the plasma cutter working!  But the air compressor is still messed
> up.  We took it apart three times trying to fix the check valve, but it
> simply didn't work.
>
> if someone orders this check valve, i'll put it into our air compressor
> and we'll be ready to use the plasma cutter with or without the robot!
>
> if you order this, email me.  otherwise I might just go get one myself
> from home depot if they have it.
>
> -jake
>
> On Fri, 22 Apr 2016, Jake wrote:
>
> > I did a lot of research and the answer is, none of the things pictured
> are
> > the problem, they are leaking as a symptom of the check valve
> malfunctioning.
> >
> > If someone orders a new check valve i'll install it and we'll have a
> > perfectly properly functioning air compressor again.
> >
> >
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CV307800AV-Campbell-Hausfeld-Air-Compressor-Check-Valve-/251126507587
> >
> > Also we need some oil for it:
> > "Chevron synthetic 5W-30, Mobil 1 5W-30 or 10W-30 synthetic motor oil.
> Using
> > other types of oil will cause starting problems"
> >
> > can i get some excitement about us getting a plasma cutter?
> >
> > -jake
> >
> > On Fri, 22 Apr 2016, hol at gaskill.com wrote:
> >
> >> If it's on the inlet it might be a vacuum breaker
> >>
> >> On 2016-04-22 14:27, Jake wrote:
> >>> sudoroom has a nice air compressor.
> >>>
> >>> some pictures here:
> >>> http://imgur.com/gallery/QBOG4
> >>>
> >>> here is the manual:
> >>> http://www.chpower.com/IMAGES/pdfs/manual00/611301_0504.pdf
> >>>
> >>> I am presently trying to figure out why it leaks air from a valve
> >>> whose purpose I don't understand.  In the meantime it is working now.
> >>>
> >>> My friend is offering to lend us a plasma cutter, which is like a
> >>> welder but cuts metal instead of welding it together.  It uses
> >>> electricity and compressed air, and when we attach the business end to
> >>> the robot, we will be able to cut precise shapes out of steel of
> >>> significant thickness, making the laser cutter very jealous.
> >>>
> >>> can someone print out the air compressor manual (PDF link above) and
> >>> perhaps put it in a binder so it doesn't get grimy?  We can attach it
> >>> to the compressor somehow.
> >>>
> >>> -jake
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> sudo-discuss mailing list
> >>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> >>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
> >>
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 02:26:37 -0700
> From: Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk>
> To: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>,
>         elisabethlizardbreath at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] air compressor and plasma cutter
> Message-ID:
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>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 1:44 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>
> > BUMP
> >
> > we got the plasma cutter working!  But the air compressor is still messed
> > up.  We took it apart three times trying to fix the check valve, but it
> > simply didn't work.
> >
>
> I love plasma cutters but how are we going to safely use one indoors? I'm
> not sure anyone wants to breathe clouds of metal oxides:
>
>
> http://www.hgcodedwelding.com/hg-coded-welding-blogs/plasma-cutting-danger
>
> --
> marc/juul
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> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 11:52:34 -0700
> From: Cere Misc <cere.misc at gmail.com>
> To: Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>, Elizabeth Mattson
>         <elisabethlizardbreath at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] air compressor and plasma cutter
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> 'Tis true.  So many good reasons to own the building outright and be better
> able to install a fume hood that vents to the roof.
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 1:44 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> >
> >> BUMP
> >>
> >> we got the plasma cutter working!  But the air compressor is still
> messed
> >> up.  We took it apart three times trying to fix the check valve, but it
> >> simply didn't work.
> >>
> >
> > I love plasma cutters but how are we going to safely use one indoors? I'm
> > not sure anyone wants to breathe clouds of metal oxides:
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.hgcodedwelding.com/hg-coded-welding-blogs/plasma-cutting-danger
> >
> > --
> > marc/juul
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > sudo-discuss mailing list
> > sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> > https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 12:39:02 -0700
> From: cere.yahoo at gmail.com
> To: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>, NoiseBridge
>         Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] [Noisebridge-discuss] Need hardware USB
>         sniffer!
> Message-ID:
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> I have a beaglebone black you can borrow.  Don't know what you mean about
> 12".
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 1:27 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>
> > the facedancer lets you pretend to be the piece of hardware.  so you can
> > plug the real hardware into your computer, and then pass along everything
> > it says and does through the facedancer to the app, and that lets you be
> > the man in the middle of the USB conversation.
> >
> > -jake
> >
> > On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Marc Juul wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> >>       i have a facedancer you can use!
> >>
> >>
> >> Hm. I don't think that will work. I have a piece of software talking to
> a
> >> piece of hardware and I need to monitor and reverse-engineer the
> protocol.
> >> I don't think the facedancer can do that?
> >>
> >> --
> >> marc/juul
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> > Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
> > Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Cere Davis
> ceremona at gmail.com
> -------------------
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> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 15:06:40 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> To: Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>,
>         elisabethlizardbreath at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] air compressor and plasma cutter
> Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.20.1604271501020.91568 at pe710.spaz.org>
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>
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016, Marc Juul wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 1:44 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> >       BUMP
> >
> >       we got the plasma cutter working!  But the air compressor is still
> >       messed up.  We took it apart three times trying to fix the check
> >       valve, but it simply didn't work.
> >
> >
> > I love plasma cutters but how are we going to safely use one indoors?
> > I'm not sure anyone wants to breathe clouds of metal oxides:
> >
> >
> http://www.hgcodedwelding.com/hg-coded-welding-blogs/plasma-cutting-danger
>
> this is a very valid concern, but my plan is to setup, in the words of
> that blog post, "a powerful fume extractor" connected to the shiny 8" duct
> that runs to the vent in the ceiling.
>
> Last night someone was using the laser cutter with that duct and the
> performance was insufficient.  I intend to reconfigure the exhaust duct in
> a couple of ways:
>
> 1. I will move the wood plate at the top of the duct so that it mates
> correctly with the round vent hole in the roof window
>
> 2. I will setup an electric exhaust blower on the roof so that air gets
> sucked out through the hose.
>
> these changes will improve performance both when the duct is used with the
> laser cutter, and when it's moved over to the plasma cutter for use when
> we're cutting metal.
>
> any help is appreciated!
>
> -jake
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:09:08 -0700
> From: "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd at gmail.com>
> To: Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>,
>         elisabethlizardbreath at gmail.com, Stephen Treder
>         <stephen_treder at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] air compressor and plasma cutter
> Message-ID:
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> CAKOjizO-JB9-PfRtyEn-m8cw872OdmRyrJnHGCR7W_aKUpn3ww at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> We should definitely disallow cutting of any stainless steel, which causes
> dangerous hexavalent chromium dust. For those of you with the blank stares,
> hex chromium is the pollutant linked to dozens of cancer cases in the Erin
> Brokovich movie, a dramatized account of an infamous case where PG&E wound
> up paying out a third of a billion dollars in damages.
>
> We should probably ban any galvanized metals as well. Zinc fumes are nasty.
> Nickel in stainless steel is a concern as well. So is the cadmium and
> manganese in some grades of steel.
>
> The upshot is that we probably shouldn't be doing any plasma cutting
> without some serious ventilation. And eye protection of course - a welding
> curtain or screen might be good to have.
>
> Patrik
>
> PS: We've been discussing the possibility of doing water testing for metal
> contaminants in CCL. But having a plasma cutter spewing metal oxides into
> the air on the other side of the room may very well make that impossible...
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 1:44 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> >
> >> BUMP
> >>
> >> we got the plasma cutter working!  But the air compressor is still
> messed
> >> up.  We took it apart three times trying to fix the check valve, but it
> >> simply didn't work.
> >>
> >
> > I love plasma cutters but how are we going to safely use one indoors? I'm
> > not sure anyone wants to breathe clouds of metal oxides:
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.hgcodedwelding.com/hg-coded-welding-blogs/plasma-cutting-danger
> >
> > --
> > marc/juul
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > sudo-discuss mailing list
> > sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> > https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:10:09 -0700
> From: Cere Misc <cere.misc at gmail.com>
> To: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>, Elizabeth Mattson
>         <elisabethlizardbreath at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] air compressor and plasma cutter
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> …and we'll probably want to have light shields surrounding the area where
> the welder is used as well.
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 27 Apr 2016, Marc Juul wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 1:44 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> >>       BUMP
> >>
> >>       we got the plasma cutter working!  But the air compressor is still
> >>       messed up.  We took it apart three times trying to fix the check
> >>       valve, but it simply didn't work.
> >>
> >>
> >> I love plasma cutters but how are we going to safely use one indoors?
> I'm
> >> not sure anyone wants to breathe clouds of metal oxides:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.hgcodedwelding.com/hg-coded-welding-blogs/plasma-cutting-danger
> >>
> >
> > this is a very valid concern, but my plan is to setup, in the words of
> > that blog post, "a powerful fume extractor" connected to the shiny 8"
> duct
> > that runs to the vent in the ceiling.
> >
> > Last night someone was using the laser cutter with that duct and the
> > performance was insufficient.  I intend to reconfigure the exhaust duct
> in
> > a couple of ways:
> >
> > 1. I will move the wood plate at the top of the duct so that it mates
> > correctly with the round vent hole in the roof window
> >
> > 2. I will setup an electric exhaust blower on the roof so that air gets
> > sucked out through the hose.
> >
> > these changes will improve performance both when the duct is used with
> the
> > laser cutter, and when it's moved over to the plasma cutter for use when
> > we're cutting metal.
> >
> > any help is appreciated!
> >
> > -jake
> > _______________________________________________
> > sudo-discuss mailing list
> > sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> > https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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