[sudo-discuss] someone at sudo was a creep and it's a problem

Marc Juul juul at labitat.dk
Wed Aug 3 16:48:54 PDT 2016


On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Cere Misc <cere.misc at gmail.com> wrote:

> I know the person you are talking about, he came by CCL first and
> dominated the conversation on our side with Kathy (which she didn't seem to
> mind) she was just being her usual affable self.   It didn't bother me much
> because I figure people can choose who they want to pay attention to, etc.
> I get that he seems a tad self narcissistic, but meh, I could say that
> about lots of people including probably myself at times.  I'm not
> dismissing what you saw, I can totally picture it actually, but the idea of
> not being able to ask someone out at Sudo just seems a tad overkill and a
> distraction from the nature of the actual problem at hand.
>
> I like the idea of signage for those not-so-clear, but kind of disturbing,
> power dynamics.
>
> What would our sign say?
>
> Somethings like:
>
> 1)  Share. *Don't dominate* group or interpersonal conversations.
>
> 2)  It's ok to tell someone to back the fuck off, buzz off, or better
> SHARE the conversation, by giving others room to talk or be silent.
>
> 3)  If someone doesn't reciprocate in a conversation, *don't push further*.
> Stop to consider the possibility that they are just not that into you, and
> that's OK.
>

I encourage you to put up this version of the sign and if someone doesn't
like it then they can make a new version and put that up instead :)


>
> I like the idea of using memes to quickly move through awkward social
> situations, as well.  The yellow card seems too overt it a way that I could
> see it becoming a walk of shame.    If someone says mansplain, pretty much
> everyone understands what dynamic is being described.  What's a one-word
> meme for narcissistic clueless pickup artist?
>

A red-piller?
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