[sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] someone keeps leaving the front door unlocked

Patrik D'haeseleer patrikd at gmail.com
Sat Jan 23 13:09:42 PST 2016


By the way, the door was unlocked this morning at 10:15. There was
someobody there who had a key, but she claimed it wasn't her who unlocked
the door. (Sorry, bad with the whole names/faces stufff...)

Patrik

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Adam <adam at aperture.systems> wrote:

> I +1 juul and senate.
> On 23 Jan 2016 12:55 pm, "Torrie Fischer" <tdfischer at hackerbots.net>
> wrote:
>
>> ~~consensus decision making~~
>>
>> I'd give one to Yar
>>
>> On Sat, 2016-01-23 at 12:53 -0800, Adam wrote:
>> > To whom should keys be given? How does one define a trustworthy
>> > member?
>> >
>> > I mean I trust Jake, Robb, et al but whom else?
>> >
>> > At RIT's hackerspace we gave key cards to the people who were
>> > responsible
>> > for fixing the broken ship.
>> > On 23 Jan 2016 10:51 am, "Torrie Fischer" <tdfischer at hackerbots.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Notes are cool and all but they don't work too well if people just
>> > > ignore them.
>> > >
>> > > Folks seem to already be ignoring this mailing list and other
>> > > cultural
>> > > forces that request the door be kept close.
>> > >
>> > > I'm in favor of rekeying the lock and making sure that whoever
>> > > gives
>> > > out the new keys has a stern conversation with keyholders about
>> > > this
>> > > sort of thing.
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, 2016-01-23 at 09:53 -0800, danarauz at gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > Oh Door:
>> > > >
>> > > > Many times I have seen the door ajar, mostly at night, and when I
>> > > > have
>> > > > tried to closed it some folks standing outside, usually smoking,
>> > > > had
>> > > > ask me
>> > > > to leave it like that.
>> > > >
>> > > > On the other hand, when events are taking place I have noticed
>> > > > that
>> > > > the
>> > > > door its intentionally kept open to guide the newcomers that it
>> > > > is
>> > > > the
>> > > > entrance and they don't have to bother by ringing the bell, etc.
>> > > >
>> > > > I don't have the solution to the whole door issue, but at least,
>> > > > I
>> > > > suggest,
>> > > > we should have a note in the inside stating to keep it closed at
>> > > > all
>> > > > times,
>> > > > of course, with exceptions when events are taking place.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Daniel
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Torrie Fischer <
>> > > > tdfischer at hackerbots.net>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Thats a solution, though I've seen that sort of thing defeated
>> > > > > with
>> > > > > people just wedging the door open or something.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Not to say that doing that is a fruitless endeavor but it can't
>> > > > > be
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > only thing done.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 03:24 -0800, Charley Sheets wrote:
>> > > > > > While I agree that re-keying may be necessary, and
>> > > > > > restricting
>> > > > > > key
>> > > > > > distribution is prudent, I wonder if it might also be useful
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > investigate different door hardware. It seems unintuitive to
>> > > > > > me
>> > > > > > that
>> > > > > > it
>> > > > > > would always be necessary to re-lock the door after unlocking
>> > > > > > it.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I would imagine there must be door hardware that allows for
>> > > > > > only
>> > > > > > a
>> > > > > > momentary unlocking action, eliminating the need to re-lock
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > door.
>> > > > > > Has anything like that been investigated? Is there some
>> > > > > > nuance of
>> > > > > > doors
>> > > > > > that I'm just not understanding?
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