[sudo-discuss] johnny ban / process?

Johnny mostmodernist at gmail.com
Wed Jul 20 00:46:19 PDT 2016


#swish

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 12:43 AM, Johnny <mostmodernist at gmail.com> wrote:

> Marc,
>
> No quorum you say?  Sub-Section 3.2.2 "Maintaining Safe Space During
> Conflict Resolution" states that my ban would have had to been ratified
> online without quorum.
>
> Sub-Section 3.2.2 Maintaining Safe Space During Conflict Resolution
>>
>> In the event that a conflict stems from one or more members being
>> threatened by another member of sudo room or a member of the wider
>> community, a temporary ban may be placed that person until the conflict has
>> been resolved. *Consensus in this case may be obtained at any sudo room
>> meeting and must be ratified online over a period of 24 hours in the event
>> quorum is not met at the meeting*. Should the person being banned fail
>> to participate constructively in the conflict resolution process as
>> determined by the membership, the ban shall become permanent.
>>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 12:36 AM, Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 12:00 AM, Johnny <mostmodernist at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I object that sub-section 3.2
>>> <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association/Ban#Section_3.2_Conflict_Resolution> Conflict
>>> Resolution has not been followed in the least.
>>>
>>> If it had been followed, then there would have been a facilitator chosen *before
>>> the meeting where a decision is made about my access*.  This is plainly
>>> indicated by this graphic on the wiki
>>> <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/File:SudoRoom.png> and the text of that
>>> section.
>>>
>>> Had this been followed, I would have been notified of conflict before
>>> judgement, and I would not have been subjected to treatment I received
>>> tonight by the law abiding members of sudoroom.  I should have been
>>> notified by the facilitator as to the fact  that I was involved in a
>>> conflict before judgement.  That did not happen.
>>>
>>
>> Any member of any Omni collective can invoke an instant temporary safe
>> space ban and then subsequent mediation and/or meetings can decide if the
>> ban should be lifted or become permanent:
>>
>>
>> https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy#4..E2.80.8E_.E2.80.8FConsequences.E2.80.AD_.E2.80.ACof.E2.80.AD_.E2.80.ACUnacceptable.E2.80.AD_.E2.80.ACBehavior
>>
>> Yes you should have been informed that the safer space policy had been
>> invoked. That was a mistake. If any volunteers are available to act as
>> conflict steward and mediator then they will contact you. Note that in sudo
>> room articles are our guidelines and consensus can overrule any existing
>> rules including invoking/revoking bans. It looks to me like there has been
>> no meeting with enough members for quorum since this happened (can someone
>> verify or correct this if they attended recent meetings?). If this is
>> correct then you are temporarily banned based on the safer spaces policy
>> until mediation can conclude or a decision is made by a quorum of minimum
>> 10 sudo room members. If there has been no consensus decision with quorum
>> then you are not banned from Noisebridge. I apologize for that statement (I
>> was not at that meeting and may have misinterpreted the wiki notes).
>>
>> --
>> marc/juul
>>
>
>
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