[sudo-discuss] johnny ban / process?

[Jenny Ryan]

I second the invocation of a safe space ban on Johnny. I avoid walking into
sudo room whenever he is present, as his presence in light of how he has
treated Lesley makes me feel extremely uncomfortable and unsafe.

Quorum is not necessary to invoke a safe space ban. Any member may call for
one if they feel threatened or unsafe, and I was going to call for one the
other week but was informed that the conflict was being mediated. Support
of the oppressed is both sudo and Omni's prerogative, not "the rights of
the accused."

-jnny

On 20 Jul 2016 10:25 a.m., "robb" <sf99er at gmail.com> wrote:

> #swish?
>
> really, this is all just a game to you johnny?
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Johnny,
>>
>> Is it true that Lesley's has a temporary restraining order against you?
>> That seems to rise above mere "gossip and accusations", and seems like it
>> would be substantial enough to trigger at least a temporary ban.
>>
>> Also, it's the nature of interpersonal conflicts that there may not be
>> any more than "accusations" available to make a decision on. So if someone
>> states that they feel unsafe around another person, it may be justified to
>> remove that other person from the space at least temporarily, until a
>> better informed decision can be reached.
>>
>> Patrik
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2016 2:16 AM, "Johnny" <mostmodernist at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> that link says if "someone's safety is at risk, a temporary ban may be
>> placed".  it says nothing about how, and obviously is meant to deal with
>> clear present safety issues, not gossip and accusations.
>>
>> abusing that vague apparatus of the super-system to ban people on mere
>> claims is totally fascist and supremacist behavior.
>>
>> defending it is also fascist.
>>
>> calling out for the record that Marc, Matt, Cere, Sigma, Jeremy are
>> fascists for consent to abuse system and unjustly override process without
>> sudo quorum; ya'll better not step on any cracks!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 12:53 AM, Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 12:43 AM, Johnny <mostmodernist at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Marc,
>>>>
>>>> No quorum you say?  Sub-Section 3.2.2 "Maintaining Safe Space During
>>>> Conflict Resolution" states that my ban would have had to been ratified
>>>> online without quorum.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The sudo room space, being part of Omni, is also subject to all Omni
>>> rules, including the Omni safer space policy which I linked previously.
>>>
>>> --
>>> marc/juul
>>>
>>
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