[sudo-discuss] wax printer

Sun Dec 3 13:48:47 PST 2017

Does anyone have a sense of what the difference is between the blue and
green negative photoresist paints?

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=positive+photoresist+paint&_sop=12&_fspt=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xnegative+photoresist+paint.TRS0&_nkw=negative+photoresist+paint&_sacat=0

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Cere Davis <ceremona at gmail.com> wrote:

> I mean if it could be UV laser cured with just a laser cutter on low power
> etch mode, that would be ideal.
>
> ...emailing on the go...
> @ceremona
> http://ceredavis.com
>
> On Dec 1, 2017 12:27 PM, "Adam" <me at adammunich.com> wrote:
>
>> You can also get unused bottles of photo resist on eBay from old silicon
>> wafer processing labs. Sometimes cheaper.
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2017 12:15 PM, "Cere Davis" <ceremona at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If it’s sunlight curable, then cool.  I just don’t like the blue polymer
>>> that requires that extra acid bath step.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Cere Davis <ceremona at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> dude… ok.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Adam <me at adammunich.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes there is mg chemicals makes photopolymer resin and films
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 1, 2017 10:43 AM, "Cere Davis" <ceremona at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ya, but pyralux, isn’t photosensitive.  I wonder if there is some
>>>>>> kind of brush-on polymer paint that is UV curable and the rest can be
>>>>>> washed off?  The UV cured portion would change from being somehow water
>>>>>> soluble to acetone/alcohol soluble.   Maybe that’s even what you’re talking
>>>>>> about.  Would love to know about it if it exists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Adam <me at adammunich.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually it just occurred to me...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you wrote an app that calculates the screen size and displays
>>>>>>> Gerber images, then with a blue filter and fresnel lens you could easily
>>>>>>> expose photosensitive PCBs (and even align two side ones).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2017 9:41 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you can also do the thing Morgan was doing, where you spray paint
>>>>>>>> the copper
>>>>>>>> and then use the laser cutter to remove paint wherever you want,
>>>>>>>> and then etch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and there's always the toner-transfer method if you can get a laser
>>>>>>>> printer to
>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Nov 2017, Cere Davis wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Might work.  Congrats on getting on of those!  Ya, like you said,
>>>>>>>>> or didn’t
>>>>>>>>> exactly say, I would need a mask that has an adhesive or have to
>>>>>>>>> use a
>>>>>>>>> vapor, which I’m really not set up to do.  As a plan B.  Does
>>>>>>>>> anyone know
>>>>>>>>> where I can use a high quality vinyl cutter?  AMT has a cutter,
>>>>>>>>> but I can’t
>>>>>>>>> get much resolution out of it before something ultimately goes to
>>>>>>>>> shit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Adam <me at adammunich.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i bought a form labs printer, might be good for making masks?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Cere Davis <ceremona at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I gave up after a thousand paper jams etc. Sucked.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...emailing on the go...
>>>>>>>>>>> @ceremona
>>>>>>>>>>> http://ceredavis.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2017 5:55 PM, "Cere Davis" <ceremona at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ya, it keeps wanting a cleaing sheet and then jamming when I try
>>>>>>>>>>>> to feed
>>>>>>>>>>>> it in via the tray or manual.  Gah!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Cere Davis <ceremona at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just tried the other printer after I sent that message.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think I’m on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right track now.  It was the printer with an asset label
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but without a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper tray, initially.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> did you try both?  did either one of them print a test page?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (assuming there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was paper in the tray or in the manual-feed loader)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> note that the printer will throw an error if the paper tray
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2017, Cere Davis wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ya, no, this printer is just not going to print.  If you’re
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo tonight, I would love to know what the magic is to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of them works, the other has mechanical problems i think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (and has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tray?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please put paper notes on the printers with whatever you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discover,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here's my imgur instructable about how to use these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printers to etch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pyralux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> circuits (don't forget to bake the ink on before trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etch!):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/TbzsP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Cere Davis wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey is the wax primer working at Sudo or what needs to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functional?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cere Davis*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science-Art | Kinetic Sculpture
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CereDavis.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @ceremona <http://Twitter.com/Ceremona>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cere Davis*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science-Art | Kinetic Sculpture
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CereDavis.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @ceremona <http://Twitter.com/Ceremona>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cere Davis*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science-Art | Kinetic Sculpture
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CereDavis.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> @ceremona <http://Twitter.com/Ceremona>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cere Davis*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Science-Art | Kinetic Sculpture
>>>>>>>>>>>> CereDavis.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> @ceremona <http://Twitter.com/Ceremona>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> *Cere Davis*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Science-Art | Kinetic Sculpture
>>>>>>>>> CereDavis.com
>>>>>>>>> @ceremona <http://Twitter.com/Ceremona>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *Cere Davis*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Science-Art | Kinetic Sculpture
>>>>>> CereDavis.com
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Cere Davis*
>>>>
>>>> Science-Art | Kinetic Sculpture
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Cere Davis*
>>>
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>>>
>>

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*Cere Davis*

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