[sudo-discuss] wax printer

Cere Davis ceremona at gmail.com
Mon Dec 4 13:32:28 PST 2017


…and related to that…

It looks like we will be getting a donation of a Shapoko (not sure which
version), so we can essentially do something very much like this “in
house”!

-Cere

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Adam <me at adammunich.com> wrote:

> honestly it would probably take way less effort to just get this
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/DC12V-TTL-405nm-100mW-Blue-
> Violet-Dot-Laser-Diode-Module-w-Driver-18x45mm/201210635679?
> epid=1881607099&hash=item2ed916a59f:g:ZSoAAOSwkl5Xc0qh
>
> And strap it on the laser cutter head. If you use a signal from the PWM
> wire that goes to the co2 laser's power supply and hook it to the TTL input
> of that module than you can use the laser cutter software to expose your
> PCBs.
>
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> On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 8:45 PM, Cere Davis <ceremona at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If anyone has some of this pcb negative photoresist paint
>> https://www.ebay.com/i/172997674784?chn=ps&ul_ref=http%253A%
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>> 253D9032075%2526poi%253D%2526campaignid%253D962079499%
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>> 2526gclid%253DCjwKCAiA3o7RBRBfEiwAZMtSCRKutTXp9SpRPk3dx-
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>> 2526srcrot%253D711-117182-37290-0%2526rvr_id%253D1382899325348, I would
>> love to use it and reimburse you with more once my eBay order comes in.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ...emailing on the go...
>> @ceremona
>> http://ceredavis.com
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2017 12:27 PM, "Adam" <me at adammunich.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You can also get unused bottles of photo resist on eBay from old silicon
>>> wafer processing labs. Sometimes cheaper.
>>>
>>> On Dec 1, 2017 12:15 PM, "Cere Davis" <ceremona at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If it’s sunlight curable, then cool.  I just don’t like the blue
>>>> polymer that requires that extra acid bath step.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Cere Davis <ceremona at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> dude… ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Adam <me at adammunich.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes there is mg chemicals makes photopolymer resin and films
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2017 10:43 AM, "Cere Davis" <ceremona at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ya, but pyralux, isn’t photosensitive.  I wonder if there is some
>>>>>>> kind of brush-on polymer paint that is UV curable and the rest can be
>>>>>>> washed off?  The UV cured portion would change from being somehow water
>>>>>>> soluble to acetone/alcohol soluble.   Maybe that’s even what you’re talking
>>>>>>> about.  Would love to know about it if it exists.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Adam <me at adammunich.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually it just occurred to me...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you wrote an app that calculates the screen size and displays
>>>>>>>> Gerber images, then with a blue filter and fresnel lens you could easily
>>>>>>>> expose photosensitive PCBs (and even align two side ones).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2017 9:41 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you can also do the thing Morgan was doing, where you spray paint
>>>>>>>>> the copper
>>>>>>>>> and then use the laser cutter to remove paint wherever you want,
>>>>>>>>> and then etch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and there's always the toner-transfer method if you can get a
>>>>>>>>> laser printer to
>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Nov 2017, Cere Davis wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Might work.  Congrats on getting on of those!  Ya, like you said,
>>>>>>>>>> or didn’t
>>>>>>>>>> exactly say, I would need a mask that has an adhesive or have to
>>>>>>>>>> use a
>>>>>>>>>> vapor, which I’m really not set up to do.  As a plan B.  Does
>>>>>>>>>> anyone know
>>>>>>>>>> where I can use a high quality vinyl cutter?  AMT has a cutter,
>>>>>>>>>> but I can’t
>>>>>>>>>> get much resolution out of it before something ultimately goes to
>>>>>>>>>> shit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Adam <me at adammunich.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i bought a form labs printer, might be good for making masks?
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Cere Davis <ceremona at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I gave up after a thousand paper jams etc. Sucked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...emailing on the go...
>>>>>>>>>>>> @ceremona
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://ceredavis.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2017 5:55 PM, "Cere Davis" <ceremona at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ya, it keeps wanting a cleaing sheet and then jamming when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to feed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in via the tray or manual.  Gah!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Cere Davis <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ceremona at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just tried the other printer after I sent that message.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think I’m on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right track now.  It was the printer with an asset label
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but without a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper tray, initially.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did you try both?  did either one of them print a test page?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (assuming there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was paper in the tray or in the manual-feed loader)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> note that the printer will throw an error if the paper tray
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2017, Cere Davis wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ya, no, this printer is just not going to print.  If you’re
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo tonight, I would love to know what the magic is to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of them works, the other has mechanical problems i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think (and has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tray?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please put paper notes on the printers with whatever you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discover,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here's my imgur instructable about how to use these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printers to etch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pyralux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> circuits (don't forget to bake the ink on before trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etch!):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/TbzsP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Cere Davis wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey is the wax primer working at Sudo or what needs to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functional?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cere Davis*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science-Art | Kinetic Sculpture
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CereDavis.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @ceremona <http://Twitter.com/Ceremona>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cere Davis*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science-Art | Kinetic Sculpture
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CereDavis.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @ceremona <http://Twitter.com/Ceremona>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cere Davis*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science-Art | Kinetic Sculpture
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CereDavis.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @ceremona <http://Twitter.com/Ceremona>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cere Davis*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science-Art | Kinetic Sculpture
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CereDavis.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> @ceremona <http://Twitter.com/Ceremona>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> *Cere Davis*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Science-Art | Kinetic Sculpture
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>>>>>>>>>> @ceremona <http://Twitter.com/Ceremona>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *Cere Davis*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Science-Art | Kinetic Sculpture
>>>>>>> CereDavis.com
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *Cere Davis*
>>>>>
>>>>> Science-Art | Kinetic Sculpture
>>>>> CereDavis.com
>>>>> @ceremona <http://Twitter.com/Ceremona>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Cere Davis*
>>>>
>>>> Science-Art | Kinetic Sculpture
>>>> CereDavis.com
>>>> @ceremona <http://Twitter.com/Ceremona>
>>>>
>>>
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