[sudo-discuss] membership dues

Patrik D'haeseleer patrikd at gmail.com
Thu Apr 5 10:48:00 PDT 2018


There may also be some legal ramifications of having people do work in
exchange for membership.

BioCurious used to do this, but they stopped offering that on the advice of
their lawyer. Because if you require people to do a certain amount of work,
it could be argued that that makes those people effectively an employee
(even if the only compensation those people get is access to a space). And
then you need to start worrying about OSHA regulations, etc...

AT CCL we get around this by offering "sponsored memberships". People
submit an online sponsorship application
<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/16YqJ00D7EYAk5IIXmCLkFLEhzqeMRP5LiCLQGdSikKE/edit>,
in which we ask how much they are able to afford to pay, why they feel they
would be a valuable addition to our community, what tasks they can help out
with, etc. How much they actually wind up helping is still entirely up to
them. But they do need to renew every 6 months, so if someone is really not
pulling their weight we always decide not to renew their sponsorship next
time (which actually has never happened to far, because we're really bad at
asking people to renew).

Last time I checked, our sponsored members were paying on average about
half of the standard membership fee, so explicitly asking how much they can
afford is definitely a much better approach than just giving people a free
ride by default.

(Note that sudo-humans is currently really bad at supporting this process
though. Because you can only offer specific membership rate levels through
Stripe, and if you have different levels they are available for anyone to
pick, not just the folks who you approved to pay at a different level!)

Patrik



On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Morgan Allen <morganrallen at gmail.com>
wrote:

> A half hour per month, instead of dues? No. Absolutely no. As an example,
> AMT requires 8/h PER month to wave due via joining Monster Corp.
> We are also not setup to have anything resembling Monster Corps (people,
> tasks & hours tracking)
>
> In addition, there are already tiers available in sudo-humans
>
>
> This is something I'd love to see in the future, but we are a long ways
> away from this discussion.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 8:07 PM, Captain Chesapeake <daro120sudo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The discussion of membership management made me think of proposing
>> suggested membership donations to the space.
>>
>> I have been brainstorming some tiers, and I'd like to also make the
>> possible suggestion of people donating one hour every two months to the
>> space in lieu of dues? Or everybody donate an hour every two months, period?
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> The Cap'n
>>
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