[sudo-discuss] sudoroom 3D printer is working!

[Jake]

unfortunately the glass bed on our TAZ 3 can't be flipped over, because the
heating pad is stuck to it and I don't think it can be peeled off without being
destroyed.. although i dind't try super hard.

this is the heating pad we have:
https://www.lulzbot.com/store/parts/24v-silicone-heater

the link you supplied for a $35 replacement glass bed is just the glass,
without the heater.  if we can't reuse the heater that we have (because it's
stuck to the old glass) then that would be another $80

fortunately i think we can keep using the existing glass plate, we just need to
fill in the gouges with whatever is handy, perhaps JB weld or even silicone
caulk, and i think we'll be OK.

-jake

On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, Morgan Allen wrote:

> It's only $35 and I'm happy to buy a new one if flipping doesn't work.
>
> https://www.lulzbot.com/store/parts/borosilicate-glass-bed-300mm-x300mm
>
> Jake, it specifically says Taz 3 compatible. So how about someone give
> flipping a try and if not I'll buy this?
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>
>> so if we can remove the glass, can't we just flip it over?
>>
>> On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, Adam wrote:
>>
>> Also I think lulzbot sells new glass for those for like $50, I had to buy
>>> one once for my printer.
>>>
>>> On Mar 15, 2018 1:33 PM, "Adam" <me at adammunich.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> That temperature hang bug is a g-code command that waits for the temp to
>>>> stabilize, I believe it can be disabled.
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 15, 2018 1:19 PM, "Cere Misc" <cere.misc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wonder if you can get silver solder to stick to the glass then scrape off
>>>>> the excess?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:12 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> it doesn't have to be super high-temp since the bed only heats to a
>>>>>> maximum of
>>>>>> like 85 degrees C which is not even boiling water temperature.  but it
>>>>>> probably
>>>>>> has to be able to stick to dirty broken glass craters, or it will pop
>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> also it needs to be something we can shape to be flat using a flat edge
>>>>>> like a
>>>>>> razorblade.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, robb wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> would high temp epoxy work for the craters?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I 3d printed stuff last night and it worked great.  I scraped off the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> stuff on
>>>>>>>> the print bed and exposed the actual glass print bed!  it's still
>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>> except
>>>>>>>> there are a couple of serious craters.  Not sure what to do about the
>>>>>>>> craters,
>>>>>>>> perhaps fill them in with caulk?  Silicone caulk sticks to glass.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If anyone wants to 3D print something please let me know and i'll
>>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> i've learned about doing it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Feb 2018, hol at gaskill.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to each one's own.  I loved showing up with a card the size of a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> fingernail and rocking and rolling from there.  no drivers, nothing
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> worry about on the PC side.  If someone is using the computer, no
>>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>> disturb them or fear they will close the window. anyone who is
>>>>>>>>> comfortable
>>>>>>>>> using a car stereo can handle the knob and button approach!  cheers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2018-02-26 11:47, Jake wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i remember that there was a bug where you couldn't put the
>>>>>>>>> temperature
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>>> into the gcode on the SDcard, or the machine would heat up but then
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> hang
>>>>>>>>>> (which is terrible and clogs the nozzle and fills the space with
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> smell of
>>>>>>>>>> burning plastic)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i don't know if that bug exists in the firmware i downloaded and
>>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> also i hate the little LCD and knob interface, and i think
>>>>>>>>>> computers
>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>> have a keyboard and ssh server...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i look forward to installing octoprint on the computer there, so
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> can use their own laptop to drive the printer through their
>>>>>>>>>> browser,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>> watch it through a webcam.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> also without a computer how are you supposed to tweak and jog the
>>>>>>>>>> machine?
>>>>>>>>>> through the LCD and knob thing?  no thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can't wait to see people printing with it!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2018, hol at gaskill.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jake I have printed 100% of the time from that machine from SD card
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> excellent results after minor setting tweaks.  Sorry if you have
>>>>>>>>>>> not had
>>>>>>>>>>> good luck.  Does the new firmware disable this feature or make it
>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>> difficult?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Either way thank you for putting in the time to fix it and I'll
>>>>>>>>>>> happily
>>>>>>>>>>> use either method going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-02-23 15:52, Jake wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I uploaded the correct firmware to the machine (it was running
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> firmware for a
>>>>>>>>>>>> machine with different physical attributes) and now it seems to
>>>>>>>>>>>> print
>>>>>>>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't have the time to properly prepare the bed though, so
>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>> was some
>>>>>>>>>>>> non-adhesion, but the giant spool of filament is hooked up and
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> ready to
>>>>>>>>>>>> go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> cura-lulzbot slicer is installed on the computer there, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> "sudoroom
>>>>>>>>>>>> white
>>>>>>>>>>>> ABS" filament is defined and should work.  Pronterface (red icon)
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> program to use to drive the printer and run the gcode generated
>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>> cura.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't do the SD card thing, it won't work and is terrible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/TAZ
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 1 Feb 2018, Paul Orozco wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So I'm coming across something else that's weird. It's
>>>>>>>>>>>> superextruding
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the left side of a calibration cube... Thought I'd share with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you. Any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2018 00:51, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's great that you got it working! which filament were you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> large spool of white ABS but the spool came apart.  if we fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spool and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dust it off, it's still good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hard part of using big spools of filament is making sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a straight path to pull from the spool, and the spool can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rotate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freely.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i can help with this on Tuesday.  we already have so much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filament,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to buy more yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018, Paul Orozco wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I actually just got it working. I figured I’d just download the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slicer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and slice it on my computer and load it up to the SD card. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> print but the filament snapped. I guessed that’d happen like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other old filaments. It’s just something that happens. Want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some filament or IDRK? How should we go about that? I mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.75 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my home.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Orozco
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Paul Orozco
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 10:27 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [sudo-discuss] Sudo Room 3D Printer Questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, thanks for the replay. I do have experience with stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I actually have experience with stuff like that. I have my own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shitty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printer that’s a Tevo Tarantula; that one runs on Marlin (I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently uploaded 1.1.4). I’m still upgrading it though
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanically. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually use Cura 3.1.0 for my slicer and have the usual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tarantula
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slicer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that. I also previously had an Anet A8 but that one was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaking down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so often I ended up getting the Tarantula and sold my old one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> friend.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve heard different things about it including that it’s still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it’s fixed. Use the computer with a direct link instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the SD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> card. I was just looking for some kind of clarification. What
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software you guys use to slice and all that good stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Orozco
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 10:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Paul Orozco
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Sudo Room 3D Printer Questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm happy to report that the nozzle heater resistor was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replaced, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as far as i know there is nothing wrong with the printer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> except
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been used in a long time, so there's probably a lot of dust on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filament and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the print bed, and maybe the nozzle is clogged.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you have experience using a 3D printer like ours, which is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TAZ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marlin firmware?  I'm guessing it will take a little bit of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fiddling to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first prints to come out well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be hosting Hardware Hacking Tuesday this week at 7PM and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> welcome to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come then and try to use the 3D printer.  I can help a little
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working on it, and there may be others who can help as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2018, Paul Orozco wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a little new and I'm just wondering what's the status of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Printer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over here. I've heard it's broken right now, so I'm wondering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take to fix it and be able to use it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Orozco
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cell: (916)337-7101
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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