[sudo-discuss] [omni-consensus] Proposal: Hire or Replace Me as Omni's Bookkeeper

[Adam]

I feel like I have to chime in.

I understand that there might be mixed feelings about the proposal, but
Jenny has been extremely generous with her time, and I am really surprised
her offer didn't get approved. I understand that there is some conflict
among the collectives but despite this being the case, it does not mean
chores do themselves.

Blocking this movement without any clear path forward as to whom else might
fill this role, is rather silly of us all, especially with tax season
almost upon us.

Now I don't want to be misconstrued as belittling anybody's position, but,
where do we go from here? Saying no is inoperative unless we have an
alternative in place.




On Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:30 PM Lesley Bell <zvezdalune at gmail.com wrote:

> Guys, I have not been aware of this thread as I've had a major issue that
> has now been resolved, but I too completely advocate for Jenny stepping
> into this role.
>
> As far as power, paying people when we're all volunteers, etc. there are
> some philosophical things we need to work out, (e.g. I'm not going to feel
> as good about cleaning the bathroom for free the next time there's a
> shitsplosion if I know someone else gets paid to clean it) but in this case
> specifically we have a precedent--we have paid lawyers and other
> specialists to do things that we needed done well and didn't have
> volunteers that were capable of doing them, like we did with Jesse, our
> lawyer.
>
> This is temporary, necessary, and I volunteer as an accountability buddy
> who will stand up to Jenny if she attempts to become Omni dictator at any
> point in the future. Which she will not, and that's why I am advocating so
> strongly for her to be able to do this.
>
> L
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 1:38 PM Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Steve, Julian, would you agree to Omni hiring Jenny at least to do this
>> year's taxes? In my opinion, there is zero chance to hire a CPA who has as
>> much background knowledge of the Omni's finances and would be willing to do
>> it for as low a fee as she is charging.
>>
>> Jenny had suggested a trial period anyway. We can revisit the issue of
>> hiring her permanently afterwards.
>>
>> Patrik
>>
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>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 1:01 PM Jenny Ryan <jenny at jennyryan.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Re: Timing - A quick glance at the edit history of the Google Doc I
>>> linked to in my proposal
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pZwwjGPjsCryp78dySTHFbrmiTZR-Q5FqQf82S5eTpk/edit#>
>>> can demonstrate that I've been writing it since last October, knowing I
>>> would need to start generating my household's income this year and acutely
>>> aware of how much time Omni's bookkeeping work has taken in the past. It
>>> should be noted I'm essentially doing the bookkeeping for not one, but 6
>>> collectives (Omni writ large, Sudo, LibLens, partial DIY [they have a
>>> secondary fiscal sponsor as well], The Village [a significant amount of
>>> work], and BAPS [tho they contributed $0 in 2019 and have no expenses]) and
>>> tax season is now upon us.
>>>
>>> I am unable to attend the Delegate's Meeting this Thursday as I'll be
>>> out of town, but happy to answer any questions or concerns remotely.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 11:56 AM Yardena Cohen <yardenack at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019, 6:58 AM Steve Martinot <martinot4 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Ironically, people raise the fact that I haven't responded to this
>>>> thread. But I didn't see any responses or discussion concerning what I
>>>> raised in my last two emails. I guess some people like to have it both ways.
>>>> >
>>>> > The suggestion has been made that I should fulfill certain criteria
>>>> in order to speak (like shoeing up for meetings that I'm not sure will
>>>> actually occur).  If that is the case, then please give me the full list of
>>>> criteria I need to meet in order to speak (when I feel like speaking), with
>>>> the source or foundation for the items on the list. That way, some brave
>>>> soul can tell me to shut the fuck up if I don't fulfill all the terms of
>>>> the list. At least, that is the logic of some of the statements made in
>>>> which my name is bandied about.
>>>>
>>>> Steve, who's telling you not to speak? Quite the opposite, I'm asking
>>>> you to say something substantial about the issue of paying Jenny (or
>>>> somebody else) to do Omni's bookkeeping, which IIRC you still haven't
>>>> done, and which I think should be a bare minimum requirement in a
>>>> consensus process where you're the only person blocking, which appears
>>>> to be the case here.
>>>>
>>>> For the record, the past 3 delegates meetings have had full or nearly
>>>> full quorum.
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