[sudo-discuss] [omni-consensus] Proposal: Hire or Replace Me as Omni's Bookkeeper

Tue Mar 26 23:12:26 PDT 2019

I support this message.  Sup.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 6:25 PM Karissa McKelvey <krmckelv at gmail.com> wrote:

> Seems like this block could be over ruled, considering the amount of folks
> who have jumped on board in support. Looking like over 95% agreement here?
>
> Thanks for taking the time to advocate for this, everyone. I haven't heard
> of a single non-profit that relies entirely on volunteer work for
> everything, especially these kinds of very professional specialized tasks,
> such as finance, which could wreck the entire boat if done improperly and
> carry a ton of weight and responsibility.
>
> It is really shameful and disrespectful for Steve & co to disregard that
> effort being put in, and to also go against what seems to be such a clear
> and overwhelming support of the proposal.
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:23 PM Karissa McKelvey <
> karissa.mckelvey at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Seems like this block could be over ruled, considering the amount of
>> folks who have jumped on board in support. Looking like over 95% agreement
>> here?
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to advocate for this, everyone. I haven't
>> heard of a single non-profit that relies entirely on volunteer work for
>> everything, especially these kinds of very professional specialized tasks,
>> such as finance, which could wreck the entire boat if done improperly and
>> carry a ton of weight and responsibility.
>>
>> It is really shameful and disrespectful for Steve & co to disregard that
>> effort being put in, and to also go against what seems to be such a clear
>> and overwhelming support of the proposal.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:49 PM Anthony Di Franco <di.franco at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm coming late to an awareness of this issue, but I'd like to add that
>>> I support hiring Jenny both temporarily now to get the taxes done (a very
>>> urgent matter at this point!) and in an established role in the future, and
>>> would like to offer my thanks for all the work she's put in gratis already.
>>> I hope we all can bear in mind that the top priority needs to be what's
>>> good for the Omni as a whole, and high on the list of priorities should be
>>> what's fair to the individual members as well.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 1:38 PM Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Steve, Julian, would you agree to Omni hiring Jenny at least to do this
>>>> year's taxes? In my opinion, there is zero chance to hire a CPA who has as
>>>> much background knowledge of the Omni's finances and would be willing to do
>>>> it for as low a fee as she is charging.
>>>>
>>>> Jenny had suggested a trial period anyway. We can revisit the issue of
>>>> hiring her permanently afterwards.
>>>>
>>>> Patrik
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 1:01 PM Jenny Ryan <jenny at jennyryan.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Re: Timing - A quick glance at the edit history of the Google Doc I
>>>>> linked to in my proposal
>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pZwwjGPjsCryp78dySTHFbrmiTZR-Q5FqQf82S5eTpk/edit#>
>>>>> can demonstrate that I've been writing it since last October, knowing I
>>>>> would need to start generating my household's income this year and acutely
>>>>> aware of how much time Omni's bookkeeping work has taken in the past. It
>>>>> should be noted I'm essentially doing the bookkeeping for not one, but 6
>>>>> collectives (Omni writ large, Sudo, LibLens, partial DIY [they have a
>>>>> secondary fiscal sponsor as well], The Village [a significant amount of
>>>>> work], and BAPS [tho they contributed $0 in 2019 and have no expenses]) and
>>>>> tax season is now upon us.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am unable to attend the Delegate's Meeting this Thursday as I'll be
>>>>> out of town, but happy to answer any questions or concerns remotely.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 11:56 AM Yardena Cohen <yardenack at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019, 6:58 AM Steve Martinot <martinot4 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Ironically, people raise the fact that I haven't responded to this
>>>>>> thread. But I didn't see any responses or discussion concerning what I
>>>>>> raised in my last two emails. I guess some people like to have it both ways.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The suggestion has been made that I should fulfill certain criteria
>>>>>> in order to speak (like shoeing up for meetings that I'm not sure will
>>>>>> actually occur).  If that is the case, then please give me the full list of
>>>>>> criteria I need to meet in order to speak (when I feel like speaking), with
>>>>>> the source or foundation for the items on the list. That way, some brave
>>>>>> soul can tell me to shut the fuck up if I don't fulfill all the terms of
>>>>>> the list. At least, that is the logic of some of the statements made in
>>>>>> which my name is bandied about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve, who's telling you not to speak? Quite the opposite, I'm asking
>>>>>> you to say something substantial about the issue of paying Jenny (or
>>>>>> somebody else) to do Omni's bookkeeping, which IIRC you still haven't
>>>>>> done, and which I think should be a bare minimum requirement in a
>>>>>> consensus process where you're the only person blocking, which appears
>>>>>> to be the case here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the record, the past 3 delegates meetings have had full or nearly
>>>>>> full quorum.
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