[sudo-discuss] [omni-commons] Sudoroom's sponsorship of Spaz events at Omni

Laura Turiano scylla at riseup.net
Thu Sep 5 13:32:20 PDT 2019


This should be discussed during the Commons report at the delegates 
meeting tonight.

On 9/5/19 11:52 AM, robb via commons wrote:
> additionally, when liberated lens has inquired with the commons wg 
> about liberated lens sponsoring an outside groups event, the commons 
> wg required us to have an equal part in organizing & facilitating the 
> event in order for our sponsorship to be considered legitimate & not 
> just supplanting the commons wg.
>
> if spaz events are allowed to continue with little to no sudoroom 
> participation, then i must conclude that liberated lens can invited 
> outside groups to put on events as long as they give some of the 
> proceeds to liberated lens
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 11:43 AM robb <sf99er at gmail.com 
> <mailto:sf99er at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     to my knowledge, member collectives have the privilege of using
>     common space for events but not the "privilege of bypassing many
>     rules and oversight of
>     Omni's commons working group."  Whether it's an outside group or
>     member collective, the commons working group has the
>     responsibility of oversight of commons space.
>
>     On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 11:23 AM Yardena Cohen via commons
>     <commons at lists.omnicommons.org
>     <mailto:commons at lists.omnicommons.org>> wrote:
>
>         To all concerned,
>
>         Spaz has been throwing a lot of parties at Omni Commons, and
>         Sudoroom
>         has been sponsoring them. As a member collective, our sponsorship
>         gives them the privilege of bypassing many rules and oversight of
>         Omni's commons working group.
>
>         But at last night's Sudoroom meeting there were many concerns
>         about
>         continuing to sponsor these parties, especially the most
>         recent party
>         on Saturday night 8/31:
>
>         * Loud noise after hours (11pm on friday/saturday) should be
>         confined
>         to the basement, but there was amplified music in the entrance
>         hall
>         all night. It undoubtedly disturbed our neighbors, which puts the
>         whole building at risk. In the future someone will need to do
>         outside
>         sound checks with a proper sound meter througout the evening, keep
>         logs, and be ready to share them
>         * The relationship between SPAZ and SKAST was not clear - at
>         first we
>         thought SKAST was just curating an art show at a SPAZ party,
>         but now
>         it looks like SKAST was actually throwing the whole party,
>         which meant
>         the people running the party didn't have a sense of ownership
>         or even
>         know what the rules were. This is a bad idea and also an abuse
>         of our
>         sponsorship.
>         * There was nobody clearly responsible or able to keep control
>         of the
>         crowd - Joe was a point person who was trying to tell people
>         to turn
>         down the music but everybody ignored him
>         * There was alcohol flowing freely, but they did not have an ABC
>         license or insurance for this. Even when the party is BYOB we are
>         still legally responsible for the presence of alcohol.
>         * There were probably too many people. You need to limit
>         attendance by
>         counting in and out guests
>         * The party leaked into the rest of the building, and many
>         people were
>         going into non-party areas such as the ballroom, sudo/ccl &
>         upstairs.
>         This creates more risk and more mess for everybody to clean up.
>         * People left a huge mess - even after several Omni volunteers
>         working
>         *ALL NIGHT* it was still not clean enough for an event the
>         next day.
>         The activists who got up early Sunday for a nonviolent direct
>         action
>         training, preparing for next week's climate strike, did not
>         have the
>         best experience at Omni and they should not need to deal with the
>         consequences of someone else's drunken benders.
>         * Communication with others at Omni has been poor. If spaz people
>         can't make it to the Commons WG meeting, then you all need to
>         figure
>         out a better time to talk to each other (e.g. not 5 pm when
>         people are
>         just getting off work).
>         * Omni recently forced out a member collective, in part because of
>         similar concerns about unpermitted boozy events. If we don't hold
>         every group to the same standards, then we are hypocrites.
>
>         We love spaz, but we cannot keep sponsoring these events until
>         everybody has met in person and resolved these issues.
>
>         Thanks,
>         Yar on behalf of Sudoroom
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