[sudo-discuss] Fwd: [omni-discuss] Late night basement events

[Jenny Ryan]

FYI - it would be great to have a new sudo room delegate! Anyone interested?
An overview of what's entailed: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Omni_Delegate

In the past, sudo room has stepped up when the larger Omni collective has
lost its path, so to speak, toward stewarding an actual commons - wherein
decisions are made collectively, and delegates are actually delegate
representatives in a spokescouncil.

Omni is slipping, and at the risk of a community group that is intimately
tied with our very foundations. Please step up - we need all sorts of help
right now:
- Noise complaints and issues with the building manager across the way on
48th
- Property insurance may pull out of insuring us given dilapidated state of
building
- Dilapidated state of building, general
- Desperate need for funding / support for refinance before our mortage
balloon payment in Jan 2022
- Upcoming fire inspection (Feb/March), property insurance inspection
(2/13), and property tax exemption (county) inspection (Feb)
- Upcoming property tax exemption app annual filing (massive amounts of
work)
- Stalled kitchen renovation (not enough funds)

Reply here to this thread, talk with people, join an upcoming meeting or
work party, or reach out privately if you'd like to help!

Love and solidarity,
Jenny

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Jenny Ryan <jenny at jennyryan.net>
Date: Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [omni-discuss] Late night basement events
To: Laura Turiano <scylla at riseup.net>
Cc: commons <commons at lists.omnicommons.org>, discuss <
discuss at lists.omnicommons.org>, <consensus at lists.omnicommons.org>


There are significant problems with this "decision," and since it did not
acquire consensus in actuality (I blocked as remote sudo room delegate on
the pad), I must speak up to revert this statement.

Apologies, Laura, as I know very well how much effort you've put into this
issue and attempting to resolve it.

A) This proposal was never submitted to the Delegate's List a week prior to
its decision-making process, as is protocol, but rather brought up suddenly
at a Delegate's Meeting amidst a haze of elicited fear, uncertainty, and
distrust by less-than-informed community members.
B) All proposals must be submitted to consensus at least a week prior to
being consensed upon, so that delegates have time to confer with their
collectives. Just a friendly reminder: we are a collective of collectives
experimenting with radical participatory democracy - not a standard
nonprofit board in which representatives make uninformed decisions on
behalf of uninformed groups.
C) Not one of the basement events actually run by SPAZ has elicited any
noise complaints - specifically, the events that have elicited noise
complaints were SKAST (third-party, midsummer), Putivuelta (third-party,
December) and FYE (December, and somehow exempt from this decision?).

I am not trying to come at anyone - just merely clarifying the actual facts
of the matter.

Given that none of our actual processes for decision-making and
self-governance were employed, this decision is, imho, moot. Nevertheless,
SPAZ decided to hold off on any upcoming events (to the detriment of their
own expenses for storage and equipment maintenance, despite events still
being approved such as FYE's late-night event that will utilize SPAZ
soundsystem on Friday), I call a hard block and look forward to having
actual discussions with our respective collectives and seeing you all at
the next delegate's meeting on Thursday to clear up the very many
miscommunications clearly at play here. It is also likely that SPAZ will be
ready to submit their membership application at this meeting - I will
submit it on their behalf in advance of the meeting. Because that is, in
fact, how we operate.

Love and solidarity,

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 5:28 PM Laura Turiano <scylla at riseup.net> wrote:

> I want to let everyone know who wasn’t at the delegates meeting last night
> about a decision that was made.
>
> Due to neighbor complaints and ongoing conflicts about use of the basement
> for late night events, the delegates unanimously decided to not allow late
> night events by anyone other than member collectives. Once a protocol for
> such events is approved and other conflicts are resolved they will consider
> allowing outside group events again.
>
> Member collectives having late night events need to coordinate w the
> commons wg to ensure there are no further complaints.
>
>
> Laura
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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