[sudo-discuss] Fwd: [omni-finance] EBC roof fix quote & skylight quote

David Keenan dkeenan44 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 18 15:03:37 PST 2021


I spoke with mike:

- new material: is elastomeric & EDRD rubber - thick liquid rubber that
when it touches roof material it bonds with it

- he will also install 3x new roof drains in addition to existing drains

- the current 12-day forecast following tonight’s sprinkle he says is rare
in rainy season and the ideal time

- the new skylights he quoted are remotely operable (open) and come with
remotely operable shades as well

Yar, sorry I must have forgotten - there’s just so many projects and some
of this coordination is ad-hoc

Best,
David

On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 14:35 Yardena Cohen <yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sudoers, any objections to omni spending $12k now (plus $12k later) to
> fix our roof? Deal of the decade IMHO. Can we consent on this by
> tonight? Also, who's tonight's delegate?
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Yardena Cohen <yardenack at gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 2:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [omni-finance] EBC roof fix quote & skylight quote
> To: David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com>
> Cc: consensus <consensus at lists.omnicommons.org>, building
> <building at lists.omnicommons.org>, <finance at lists.omnicommons.org>
> <finance at lists.omnicommons.org>
>
>
> David I thought you were gonna tell me when you were meeting Mike at
> Omni! You promised me like 3 times! Boo. But regardless, thank you.
>
> I think Omni should jump at this opportunity. $12k for a 7-year
> guarantee on the whole roof, plus another $12k that we don't need to
> pay until refi? AND skylights? It's a no-brainer to me. It's a chunk
> of our current savings, and we'll need to be extra frugal after this,
> but 100% necessary.
>
> Hardest part may be finding 7 dry days in a row, and 3 volunteers to
> commit to being there 3 days in a row. I can to commit to being one of
> them - can 2 other people commit to that also?
>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 1:58 PM David Keenan via finance
> <finance at lists.omnicommons.org> wrote:
> >
> > MaryAnn's son Mike was kind enough to return to omni recently and quote
> a medium-term fix to the roof that he is willing to guarantee for 7 years.
> >
> > While he was on the roof, he also suggested replacing the skylights and
> provided that as well in a separate quote.
> >
> > The above 2 quotes are not dependent on one another. They are linked
> below, along with 2 pictures of prior roof samples:
> >
> >  EBC quote-Omni skylight-replacement_2021-11-18.pdf
> >
> >  EBC quote-Omni Roof Repair_2021-11-18.pdf
> >
> >  EBC-worksample1-roof.jpg
> >
> >  EBC-worksample2-roof.jpg
> >
> > Roofing quote:
> >
> > - $18.5K; he said he is willing to knock $4K off the the roof quote
> price if we can provide three volunteers who "know how to roll paint".
> >
> > - Takes 3 days to execute and needs 7 days of dry weather,
> >
> > - Could do in next two weeks otherwise probably would be next year
> >
> > - Needs 50% down to schedule
> >
> > - The quote is high-level and not as-yet very specific. He did mention
> the rubber-like substance he was going to use to lay over the roof (and use
> to feather up a few areas to prevent pooling), but unfortunately I can't
> recall the name of the product - I've asked him to follow up with that
> information.
> >
> > He estimated the weight of the additional roof layer to be ~400lb.
> That's not so much and so just speaking personally, I am not as concerned
> about the structural impacts of the weight of the additional layer as I
> would otherwise be, though others may be concerned (since it's also true we
> don't know how many layers of roof we presently have, as we have not yet
> cored the roof.)
> >
> > Skylight replacement quote:
> >
> > - $8.945.21 incl. donating his labor time (!) to Omni.
> >
> > - Needs 100% down to schedule as skylights would be custom-ordered.
> >
> > My thoughts:
> >
> > Mike seems incredibly nice. Both quotes are substantially lower than a
> typical roofing or skylight replacement quote. However, each quote
> nonetheless still represents a significant expense to Omni obviously.
> >
> > Safer DIY might (not yet determined) be willing to e.g. front Omni the
> 50% needed to engage the roof quote, provided it was paid back by Omni, say
> at least by the time of Omni's refi.
> >
> > Best,
> > David
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