[Sudo-kids] Sudo Kids Update & Status for Next Week

Fri Sep 6 13:01:42 PDT 2013

It seems to me the weather is ripe for some outdoor activities.

We can put a sign up or have someone in the space during sudo-kids time to
direct folks to a different location in case they show up.

Lake Merritt has many excellent features ripe for exploring:
http://oaklandwiki.org/map/tags/lakemerritt including the bandstand
http://oaklandwiki.org/Lake_Merritt_Bandstand

// Matt

On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Carolyn Lunger <carolyn.lunger at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Marina and Ray:
>  I don;t have the emails of some of the parents to give them this
> information. I have contacted Funmilayo, Pamela Wain and Tehani but there
> was Thea or something like that.
> I know Johnathan ran around to get as many as possible via Raymond's ipad.
> How can we insure all the parents get this message? I will try and email
> all the homeschooling lists that Sudo Kids is temporarily on hold to plan
> and organize further. How is that?
>
> Despite the fact that Sudo Kids is on hold I really wanted to use this
> time to start scheduling activities and collecting supplies so when we do
> open up again. Everything is ready to go for you guys for at least a few
> months of activities. I put together a few google docs and a schedule on
> spreadsheet.
> I am also assuming that until we hear otherwise that NO kids can be at
> Sudo Room which includes nonSudo Kids times.
>
> I also wanted to let parents know that I might a hold small group in my
> garage until we get final word on anything. Thoughts?
>
> Carolyn
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Marina Kukso <marina.kukso at gmail.com>
> *To:* "sudo-kids at lists.sudoroom.org" <sudo-kids at lists.sudoroom.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 6, 2013 10:54 AM
> *Subject:* [Sudo-kids] Sudo Kids Update & Status for Next Week
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> To catch everyone up on what's been going on, during Tuesday night's Sudo
> Kids, George, one of our landlords, came to the space and asked that all
> children under 18 leave. Yardena and others spoke with him and kept kids
> night going for that night, but he insisted that in the future children
> under 18 would no longer be allowed.
>
> His request was ostensibly based on an email (included below) sent in
> mid-August from Laurie (George's wife and the co-landlord of 2141 Broadway)
> regarding children in the space. Unfortunately, not everyone was aware of
> her email before this past Wednesday. While this was part of the source of
> the problem, the other part of the problem was that George's request (that
> no children be allowed in the space) was not the same as Laurie's request
> (that all children be accompanied by parents and that George and Laurie
> receive advance notice before any child-oriented events), and that George
> did not communicate his request in a productive way.
>
> On Wednesday we discussed what to do and a number of us drafted the below
> email which Matt sent to Laurie in response to her August email. We haven't
> yet heard back from her.
>
> So the current situation is that we must unfortunately assume that Sudo
> Kids is on pause until we hear back from her. We will keep everyone updated
> on the situation if we have any updates. And we will still have Sudo Kids
> outdoor chapter at my house on Sunday morning!
>
>
> Marina
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Matthew Senate* <mattsenate at gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:26 PM
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Letter sent to Laurie, one of our Landlords
> To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
>
>
> Hey all,
>
> As a result of our meeting tonight and a discussion the on-going issue
> with sudo-kids, we drafted and sent this letter to Laurie. We wrote it in
> collaboration with folks at the space after the meeting, and sent it in
> do-ocratic fashion. We provide a copy below in transparency and
> accountability:
>
> Hi Laurie,
>  This week George addressed a group of folks in the common area outside
> of Sudo Room and the Public School regarding the presence of minors in the
> building. His behavior was confrontational, hostile, loud, and very
> upsetting to many of those who were present, including some
> parentally-accompanied minors. There has unfortunately been a series of
> miscommunications about this issue, and we are dedicated foremost to
> resolving it amicably.
>  First, thank you for communicating the building's policies on minors via
> email. Unfortunately, due to a lapse in our own internal communication, the
> contents of your email were not conveyed sufficiently to the relevant sudo
> room members before Wednesday of this week. Please understand this was a
> lapse in communication that has been rectified.
>  Secondly, since early June, every Tuesday evening parent-supervised
> minors have attended sudo room. We provide no supervision services for
> minors. In fact, we provide no services to customers (we don't have
> customers) as we are a membership association. It was unclear that this
> event was specifically of any concern since it followed the requirement of
> supervision by parents. We are willing to meet the necessary requirements
> to ensure that you and George are provided with the appropriate advanced
> notification of any planned future sudo room events involving supervised
> minors and their parents. It is relevant to note that in the past we have
> allowed accompanied minors to be in the "Art Room" and not use common
> space, but in recent instances the common room has been used as well.
> Further, since we are interested in being as accessible as possible to
> different communities and demographics, we would like to clarify what
> opportunities there might be (through city services, insurance, waivers,
> etc.) for minors to be in the building in ways other than those outlined in
> your email.
>  Thirdly, regarding the damage to the bathroom you discuss in your email,
> we understand your concerns and are sorry that it happened. We have raised
> awareness in hopes of preventing instances like this from happening in the
> future. While we are happy to take shared responsibility for ensuring the
> bathrooms are clean and usable, we want to communicate that we are not
> aware of any evidence that the minors who have been at sudo room were
> responsible for the damage. We fully support your desire to keep all parts
> of the space (including the bathrooms) vandalism-free, clean, and usable,
> so we have made all sudo room members aware of this incident, reinforced
> the expectations surrounding bathroom cleanliness, and reiterated the
> policy that children should not use bathrooms unaccompanied. Please let us
> know if you encounter any problems with the bathrooms in the future so that
> we can take appropriate action. However, we also ask for understanding that
> if there are problems with a shared space in the building, that absent
> specific evidence, sudo room may not have been the source of a particular
> problem.
>  Finally, we would like to share with you a few of our expectations as
> lessees that we hope will help us continue to stay in this building that we
> have been very happy to rent for the last 9 months:
>  Our Expectations:
>  That issues with our use of common space or our use of our rented "Art
> Room" be conveyed in writing, with disrespectful confrontations being
> completely unacceptable, in any circumstances.
>  Consistent with Sudo Room standards, that minors continue to be able to
> participate at Sudo Room, provided they are accompanied by parents or a
> legal guardian.
>  To work together with you as we grow, which requires we be accessible to
> more communities and demographics.
>  To consider options for mitigating liability through additional
> insurance, waivers, etc.
> // Matt
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Laurie Cooperman Rosen* <Lscoop at comcast.net>
> Date: Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:01 PM
> Subject: Children
> To: eddan at eddan.com, mattsenate at gmail.com, exchequer at sudoroom.org,
> poems at zachhouston.com
>
>
> Hi All-
> We are having big problems with the number of children in the building.
> We are not insured for children, and to use that space for any type of
> children’s program the City has stringent requirements that must be met,
> both in terms of physical layout/inspections and insurance.  Children
> (under 18) should not be in the space except when accompanied by their
> parent(s) with advance notice to us.  There should be no special programs
> involving children happening in the upstairs area.  We are also aghast at
> the destruction that has been done to the restrooms by the children, and
> ask that all children using the bathroom be accompanied by and monitored by
> their parents.  The stress on the restrooms in general has been huge
> because of the number of people in the building from The Bay Area Public
> School and The Sudo Room, and we ask that you start to clean the bathrooms
> regularly or be prepared to start to pay for the additional Janitorial
> time/supplies that are driving us both crazy!
> Also, the ADA restroom is for the disabled, and should not be used except
> when others are full or for a special reason.  The stress being put on that
> room could mean that when it is really needed it may not be in working
> condition.
> Please call George if you need any clarification on these issues, and
> thanks in advance for cooperating with us on these matters.
> Laurie & George
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Carolyn Lunger <carolyn.lunger at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> In regards to Sudo kids and george issue?
> Are we continuing on with Sudo Kids at the current site?
> Carolyn
>
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