| Below you'll find the SudoMesh meeting minutes from Tues, 2 October 2018. |
The notes are also viewable online:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/2_October_2018-------
'''People's Open Network Weekly Meeting - 2 October 2018 7:30pm-9pm'''
* https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy
=== Agenda ===
* Introductions and Meeting Roles (10 mins)
* Check in on previous action items (5 mins)
* Updates & Reportbacks (20 mins)
* Next Sunday (5 mins)
* Discussion: What should our internal project proposals look like? (15 mins)
* Action Items (5 mins)
* Breakout Groups
=== Introductions ===
Introduce yourself: Name; Preferred Pronoun; Icebreaker Response; BRIEF Announcements
* Icebreaker question: What is your favorite gift to give and/or receive?
* grant - he/they - favorite gift to give or receive is one that is made by hand
** benny/jenny - it's grant's birthday!
** jenny - maybe sunday we should have a joint birthday party
* robb - he/him - favorite gift is one found
* jon - he/him - favorite gift to give/receive is knowledge
* seth - he/they - favorite gift to receive is cashews/walnuts
* jenny - she/her - favorite gift to give/receive is books, specifically ursula le guinn novels. i also give a lot of 5th sacred thing (starhawk). (bay area separated from the resit of california -- city of refuge follow up).
* benny - he/him - favorite gift to give/receive - little blank hand-sown books
** meshed granny squares at the next BYOI !!!
* scott - he/him -i like to give books or food, or i used to do a lot of jewelry, but that's hard because it takes time and i get anxious
* martin - he - usually i like to gift people with my presence--this is my gift to you--you're all welcome. mostly i like to receive things that are hand-crafted and that tell a story about the person. simple, not expensive, but a lot of care.
* mai - she/they - either an unexpected food gift or a book that I like or that the other person would really be into
* ben (eenblam) - he/they - i like getting chocolate. i like buying chocolate for other people too i guess, but maybe that's because i get to buy myself chocolate. (usually like dark; sea salt is fun)
=== Meeting Roles ===
* Facilitator/s: Jenny
* Stacktaker: Benny
* Notetaker/s: Benny, robb
** URL of this pad: https://peoplesopen.net/notes
== Check in on previous action items ==
Check previous meeting minutes at https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes and past action items below:
* check in with nic about whether we can use the 2 tix interchangeably over the 3 days - juul
** jenny checked and yes, only jenny + juul used it.
** scott - we tried to figure it out but didn't know what to do.
* find someone who's happy to climb towers to mount radio on richmond tower (ben's friend?)
** moving to next week (no eenblam)
** mebbe scott
* submit budget request for non-penetrating roof mounts - grant? juul?
** grant - yes, thought we should order 2x roof mounts
** scott - was talking with robb last week and we think we can make them for way cheaper
** jenny - other thing grant submitted was slipmat
** grant - ya should buy those
** breakout sesh after / notes below
* look at neighborly app and apply (benny)
** applied! as a service provider
* explore what a map of the mesh would look like (mai)
** mai - punt 2 weeks and work with jenny
* think about our communications systems -- make email list and rocket chat more present (benny)
** punted to next week
== Updates & Reportbacks ==
=== Bugs/Technical ===
Priority bugs we need help with are located at: http://peoplesopen.net/helpwanted - For a high-level overview of recent Github activity, see the Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/r9l5ouQ4/3b2eecd83bb9e7a57a339cf1ee038288/sudo-mesh-github-repos
* benny - fixed bug with exitnode babeld restart script -- we still have regular outages (see http://peoplesopen.net/monitor), but now it takes just a few seconds instead of hours before all the nodes come back online
* benny - at the last software wg we researched this babeld bug some more
* grant - had some discussion with jorrit about which exitnode ips to include in the firmware -- one of the exitnodes in the list receives connections but does not provide any mesh routes. we also want to deprecate psychz.
** propose hosting a new exit node at the internet archive
* grant - there's a firmware rebuild issue
* grant - now travis pushes back to builds.sudomesh.org so now we're doing nightly builds!
** ben - is there an easy way to push a stable release?
** grant - no it's still manual
=== Node Mounts & Outreach ===
Node Mounts Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/DtzngKaM/49e1c21fc9da199fcdeceb8623b5117a/node-mounts
* reed bros - need help understanding how to use air os on the mesh. started debugging this at last sunday's office hours w/ juul. still more to figure out.
* omni rooftop (air fiber! and omni rocket!)
** airfiber still needs ground cable!
** time to e-mail paxio?! eenblam
* benny: anybody know what LOLspace's status is?
** robb - originally we wanted to put a receiver in the village, but then we ran out of time and were unsure about the security of the receiver
** jenny - village site was slated to move by mid november because of a seismic thing, but that's being pushed to mid-january, and the city is promising to provide village with available properties to move to by mid-october. Recently the village has lost a lot of equipment -- their shower truck was dismantled, solar panels stolen...
* robb - someone at here nor there camp has a solar panel and is able to run his laptop all night. might be able to put a pole on his van. may involve puttin a telescoping pole on top of david and nicki's. i'm looking into it.
** jenny - we should finish dave and nicki's.
** grant - recommend putting up an omni antenna if you go back and spend time there.
** eenblam - also recommend putting an omni on jeff's.
=== Communications & Events ===
Comms Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/f3ugMPNU/94033ee6c2cef93fc1b1637b727c902a/sudo-mesh-communications // Events Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/Y3XfDK85/2b6fcb4fa92788609692a53a96fb4614/peoples-open-events
* seth wrote a newsletter draft: https://peoplesopen.net/pad/p/pon-newsletter-2018-04
** ben: i have pictures
** mai: me too--also i've been meaning to do the handshake press release
* handshake press release: mai and jenny are working on it - join! - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nmocVa7zTuLkWniObF2jikGoL5MI8MD7n2InSDVbwk/edit
* kalw article: http://www.kalw.org/post/people-s-open-net-internet-people-people#stream/0
* Issue with PON networks - monopolized by major service providers
* jon - researching landlord rights re: ISP provider availability to their renters. focused on SF. oakland wouldnt be protected under their ordinance. oakland's would ideally provide support for peer-to-peer networks and definition of what a communication service provider is. . under SF police code (
** discussion about ordinance: https://sfgov.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=2863893&GUID=E010FDC6-4024-4BA7-B282-C0F9DE32D9F4
** eenblam - monkey brains had something on their website saying that if your landlord wouldn't let you install, the ordinance would enable them to install. but, last i checked, i couldnt find the wording on the website anymore.
** grant - in oakland is there anything that says you can or cannot put anything on your apartment building?
** jon - maybe need to update the building codes. right now every apartment has to have a mandatory phone jack. maybe should change to mandatory cat 6.
=== Internal Logistics / Finance ===
Internal Logistics & Bureaucracy Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/LzVQlW3X/1bb8bd543c8633688175365d2554c2c2/internal-logistics-bureaucracy-brainstorms
* Jenny and Benny issued reimbursements for everyone who requested it
* Purchasing requests:
** Grant clarified the roofmount equipment needs. were coonfused about laser gun (namely why and why this model which is ~$200 more than other similar models?)
* ben - if we can get professional google earth, we'd get lidar data from that.
* grant - i got some wirless wires -- supposedly can put openwrt on them
== Next Sunday ==
=== Node Mount ===
We try to arrange a rooftop node mount every Sunday afternoon. Ongoing spreadsheet is located at: https://peoplesopen.net/sundays
* Next Sunday's mount:
** make prototype non-penetrating roof mount (lead by scott and robb)
** birthday party!
=== Office Hours ===
We host office hours every Sunday from 1-2pm in Sudo Room. To sign up for a shift, fill in your name here: https://ethercalc.org/byoi_office_hours
* Next Sunday's volunteer:
* Notes from this past Sunday's session:
== Discussion: What should our internal project proposals look like? ==
* 1) Read bengo and jorrit's comments on loomio (https://www.loomio.org/d/YuC1wIps/how-we-make-decisions/8) and (https://www.loomio.org/d/YuC1wIps/how-we-make-decisions/11)
* 2) Discuss
** Going to start on loomio (ran out of time to discuss in person this week)
== Action Items ==
* find someone who's happy to climb towers to mount radio on richmond tower (ben's friend?)
** scott doesn't mind the heights
* see if we got a neighborly app receipt and put in google drive (benny)
* schedule psychz deprecation session with juul (benny)
* buy omni antennas (grant)
* e-mail paxio (juul)
* add ISOC proposal process to loomio discussion below (jenny)
* new loomio thread for defining project proposal template (benny)
== Breakout Groups ==
At the end of the meeting, break out into small groups to hack on or discuss specific topics.
* rooftop mounts
* airfiber + mesh
* more landlord/ISP ordinance chats
== Last Meeting Notes ==
* https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/25_September_2018
== End of Meeting ==
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October 1, 2018 10:52 AM,
mai@peoplesopen.net wrote:
Hey there,
This is a reminder to add any topics you'd like to be discussed at the People's Open Network meeting on Tues 2 October 2018, 7:30 - 9:00 PM PT.
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https://peoplesopen.net/pad/p/notes <<<
Please add your discussion item(s) where it says "== Discussion: X ==" or "== Proposal: X ==" and include any concise, relevant comments to inform the discussion. Remember to also add the topic at the top under Agenda.
If you add something, we expect you to come to the meeting to give some context and lead that discussion.
thanks,
Mai
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