Allo all!
So sorry to miss the meeting tonight :( I added a bunch of belated updates in the notes below:
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Introductions
Introduce yourself: Name; Preferred Pronoun; Icebreaker Response; BRIEF Announcements
- Icebreaker question: favorite app
- mai - she/they - duckduckgo app - storquest said they talked to
higher ups and they can't give us roofspace for less than
2k/mo :-( :-( :-(
- sierk - guessing that tthe cost must have to do with granting
access to the rooftop. they probably calculate a risk about how much
work/hassle it would be... can we list them as--what's the opposite of a
community partner?
- ben - is that the only building that we can get a line of site from?
- mai - no, that's just the place paxio seemed most interested in. i
have a feeling they want us to establish some sort of infra up there.
but reed bros which is on telegraph has a line of site maybe and we have
a relationship them.
- someone - my brother in law used to work there for a long time
- jehan - i would suggest contacting the building that's going up,
tell them we have a gigabit from paxio. probably enough for that
building and us.
- bengo - lets keep movin along
- sierk- is it okay that we have a hop?
- seth - he/they - antenna pod open source podcast app. couple people
came in last sunday. can't remember their names. tried to flash a
router but didnt have a usb eth adapter. will have one next time.
- sierk - no favorite app. need to find something thats better than
kindle on my phone. once i do it will be my favorite. been working on
disaster radio. hope to have some cool disaster radio apps ready in a
few days. pulled 3 all-nighters. actually my favorite app is definitely
camera!
- sven - nickname sven - no favorite app, but i am a programmer, so my IDEs. just here to see if you need help.
- sachi - stopped using a smart phone a while back. have happily not
gone back. maps.me is a good one though. handy if you don't have wifi in
a foreign country. interested in finding out what you're up to now.
last time i checked in was a couple years back.
- bengo - prefer they, but he is okay - favorite app is gitlab. really good for continuous deployment.
- benny - he/they - favorite app is instagram but am not a connoiseur. also mountain (the app game thing).
- jehan - he/him - favorite app... i go on twitter a lot. crash
royale is good too. card game with monsters. feels like strategy is
involved.
- blake - gameboy advance emulator is favorite app, megaman something
something. looking for people to battle with over emulated link cable.
late arrivals
- shawn - favorite game crypt of the necrodancer
- leslie - i have a lot of philosophical and aesthetic issues with
most of the ways that we currently experience technology. i dont like
how our communication is mediated with other people through apps. but if
i had to choose a favorite app, some animated cats, or a go practice
app, or signa.
- jenny-remote-belated: apologies, i am absentee and belated to
the notes! she/her. fav app right now is Wigle (WiFi wardriving!) -
still finishing video wit robb. hope to have something before leaving
town for 3 weeks ~July 4th. several updates in the notes below.
Meeting Roles
- Facilitator/s: Ben
- Stacktaker:
- Timekeeper:
- Notetaker/s: Benny
Check in on previous action items
Check previous meeting minutes at https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes and past action items below:
- create github issue for website for security FAQ
- mai: im interested in helping as a way to learn more about security
- sierk: talked to ben about this last week. people have to be
responsible for their own security--not secure by virtue of using the
network. since we're an educational nonprofit it makes sense to have
educational materials.
- mai: also important to emphasize that it's not any less secure than any other network
- bengo: maybe a comparison table sudomesh vs. normal isp
- sierk: could also make a security team. would be good for us to have people dedicated to this.
- bengo: quarterly security review.
Updates & Reportbacks
Bugs/Technical
Priority bugs we need help with are located at: http://peoplesopen.net/helpwanted - For a high-level overview of recent Github activity, see the Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/r9l5ouQ4/3b2eecd83bb9e7a57a339cf1ee038288/sudo-mesh-github-repos
- Benny: fixed a peoples-open front bug #1, also fixed the monitor so it shows when a node was actually last seen
- Jenny-remote-belated: video primarily delayed cuz we were trying to
film nodes flashed with v.0.3 pre-release that Grant deployed last week
(yay! ty grant! now errybody test it!) - had some issues following the
walkthrough (and assorted technical difficulty circus I won't bore you
with, but may write a satirical post about at some point this
summer :P). Updated the Walkthrough to reflect autoconf as well as node
port standards on latest batch of N600s: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/WalkThrough
Node Mounts & Outreach
Node Mounts Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/DtzngKaM/49e1c21fc9da199fcdeceb8623b5117a/node-mounts
- eenblam-remote: since StorQuest seems like a no-go, can we make Reed Bros. happen this week? I'm available after Wednesday.
- bengo: are they ready and waiting?
- mai: ya someone talked to them about a mount and they seemed down — last person who said they would get in touch was lesley
- ACTION bengo: reach out to lesley to pick up communication thread. Schedule time with Reed Bros
- bengo: I could go thursday or friday this week
- jehan: I could go friday
- mai: I could go thurs or fri
- jenny-remote-belated: with the videomaking deadline, reflashed
livelabs node(s) - 2 more gateways, + 2 extender nodes (pointing NW
toward Scott and SE to Hearth - third pointing SW to be connected once
we reroute cableage as the kitchen power scene is currently a
clusterfuck o.0)
- jenny-remote-belated: heard back from lolspace/liberate 23rd ave
tonight! - "We had another meeting and approved the mesh network; we
just need to make sure the wiring doesn't get in the way of the tenants
and we'll need the antenna taken down for a bit while we redo our roof
sometime in the next 2 years-ish. What do we need to do next to get
rolling with this? I'm cc'ing Jen, our point person at Oakland Community
Land Trust, who's also interested in maybe having an antenna set up at
her spot too. Please contact her directly. Thanks! "
- also gonna attempt fixing david & niki node and bringing a
node to First They Came for the Homeless for their meeting Thursday...
that is if we ever escape videomaking purgatory...
- jenny-remote-belated: created this aspirational network topology diagram for 2018 while working on video: https://github.com/sudomesh/propaganda/tree/master/infographics/2018_Network_Goals_Roadmap
Communications & Events
Comms Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/f3ugMPNU/94033ee6c2cef93fc1b1637b727c902a/sudo-mesh-communications // Events Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/Y3XfDK85/2b6fcb4fa92788609692a53a96fb4614/peoples-open-events
- Sudo Mesh Comms Channels Venn Diagram:
- benny: we went as a group to b4bel4b to see an exhibit on internet
and surveillance. Would anyone be interested to go to MOAD as a group to
see this exhibit -- https://www.moadsf.org/exhibition/digitalia-art-the-economy-of-ideas/
- bengo, mai: +1
- MOZILLA GRANT SUBMITTED ON FRIDAY WOOOOOOOOOO THANK YOU EVERYONE
WHO WORKED ON IT (also jenny and robb are still working on the video)
- sierk - if we like how this working process went, maybe we should
reflect on whether we want to continue setting our own deadlines for
future projects?
- jenny-remote-belated: Decentralized Web summit folks offered me a
ticket. When I asked how many from sudomesh I could +1, they said, "We'd
love to invite the sudomesh community but would they be willing to
volunteer in exchange? We could offer them a $50 ticket with a
four-hour volunteer shift. Here's the thing: each attendee costs the
Internet Archive $536, so with the sliding scale, the only way we can
break even is if there is enough $750 tickets sold to cover the $400
non-profit tix. But we really need good volunteers to run the time
clocks, organize the participants in a room, man registration, etc. So
if sudomesh members are willing to do that, we'd welcome as many as want
to come."
- adding email to the events trello, just indicate "sudo mesh"
for discount ticket - ping me if you need my freebie, am down to swap!
- I also mentioned that we were discussing hosting an
unconferency/informal-style event the weekend after the conf, and they
said, "There's nothing planned the weekend after, so by all means, host
as many folks as will stick around for the weekend! We're happy to hand
out flyers with registration or help get the word out in any way."
- mentioned this also separately to Gunner (AspirationTech), who
said, "Sounds cool! Keep me posted. We would be happy to chip is with
some funds for food and bevs." (didn't ask him directly to participate,
was just feeling out the decentralized web sitch)
- jenny-remote-belated: reminder: will be presenting at Our Networks
in Toronto ~July 14th - can you come? perhaps we could allocate some
funds from the mozilla grant to travel sponsorships? juul will also be
presenting http://fread.ink at HOPE (sierk, this would be your kindle replacement app...appstore!)
Internal Logistics / Finance
Internal Logistics & Bureaucracy Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/LzVQlW3X/1bb8bd543c8633688175365d2554c2c2/internal-logistics-bureaucracy-brainstorms
- Discussion (5min): bengo: There is this kanban board, should we review it each meeting to keep up to date? https://github.com/orgs/sudomesh/projects/2
- sierk: we discussed moving away from github. what if we just used trello and set this up when we get on gitlab?
- blake: I'd argue against using gitlab because github is important for maintaining visibility to our project
- sierk: ya i agree. i think we should definitely mirror our repos on
github so something is still there. marc felt pretty strongly about
github.
- sven: have you heard of framasoft, non profit which motto is "let's
de-googlize internet". provide a bunch of collaborative software.
(blog in french : https://framablog.org/_
- bengo: im gonna go to the trello board that exists and see if it's
already set up for what im going for here. my primary concern is about
having a single place where we can send people to find out what's being
worked on.
- mai: i think in general we should look at our trellos during these
meetings, so its not an extra step to go there and drag the cards around
- jenny-remote-belated: worked pretty intensely to set up the trello
boards, which are also integrated with the rocketchat - but so is
github. this kanban board looks firmware-specific... internal logistics /
bureaucracy trello is principally: brainstorms/roadmap,
finance/fundraising, gov't filings, and nonprofit docs (eg 501c3 letter,
business plan, insurance leads, bylaws etc)
Next Sunday
Node Mount
We try to arrange a rooftop node mount every Sunday afternoon. Ongoing spreadsheet is located at: https://peoplesopen.net/sundays
- Next Sunday's mount:
- a wild lesley appears
- lesley - one of the ones i was excited about is delayed because
jeff moved. am excited about it because we'd have 2 four-story buildings
in a neighborhood of 2-story buildings.
- bengo and lesley plan to coordinate about reed brothers
- mai - a guy who lived in jeff's building named john henry came by--i can send you his email
Office Hours
We host office hours every Sunday from 1-2pm in Sudo Room. To sign up for a shift, fill in your name here: https://ethercalc.org/byoi_office_hours
- Next Sunday's volunteer: benny volunteers, mai is backup,
lesley will probably be there too (but is organizing a 7pm machine
learning discussion group at sudo)
- Notes from this past Sunday's session:
copied from seth's update: tried to flash a router but didnt have a usb eth adapter. will have one next time.
- mai: we made some moves to clean up our wiki in preparation for the grant proposal, so we could continue that this office hours
- theme: wiki and project ergonomics
Action Items
- create github issue about making faq/security page on website (benny)
- leslie to email me eenblam, whoever else about Reed Bros (leslie)
- talk to commons building that is being built and will block our LOS to paxio (jehan)
- follow up with b4bel4b about doing a mount and about when our
office hours and meetings are because one of the artists is interested
in coming (mai)
- follow up with hearth node mount (blake)
- eenblam - I have Hearth's nanobeam at my place. Can reflash and
take by there, or we can use a different one. Whatever's clever.
- jenny-remote-belated: yay! livelabs nodes are back online, ping me and/or marc so we can coordinate aiming!
- [sierk]: research rise up and austin yellow bike project about
non-profits transitioning to paying people. contact them, ask them what
they're willing to share. (sierk in 2 weeks)
- finish video [jenny/robb]
- circle back with lolspace/liberate 23rd ave [jenny]
- circle back w/ archive folks & peef [jenny/juul]
Last Meeting Notes
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