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This project may be a good reference for people working on the gasifier

by Anthony Di Franco

Or maybe it actually is the gasifier you're working on, I don't know: http://www.gekgasifier.com/products/product-overview

12 years, 10 months

Coming Saturday

by Morten H. D. Fuglsang

Hi all, Big progress made this weekend. Awesome energy! There is still work to be done in the shop with regards to organizing. Jessie will hopefully find time to properly weld-assemble the new steel racks before the weekend, which means that Saturday, the list of things to do is as follow: *Things to do (refer to floorplan linked -- * https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1HY-XL7yZIrh1HsTZ_4_9tVZLnMUAJWQQjDvy6Tn… ) - #1, metal rack and cut station area: - put steel on rack - move cutting tools to cutting station - #3, forge area - generally make area ready for installing a forge - #4, misc table stuff area - place grinder and misc handtools on wooden thing. - (#5 bike station, TBD) - Current table: Our current welding table will be there - #6, drill press and mill area - move stuff away. - move mill from current metal table to wooden table - place drill presses and mill in place. - #7, crazy OMI office producitvity station - place new desk in place. - stuff for organizing project papers, files, receipts, etc. - notes, project files etc. - put whiteboard on wall - #8, firstaid and stoage - get transparent plastic containers for storing misc stuff, place em on it! - make a map of closest hospital; print and place. - LABELS! Label things and areas.

12 years, 11 months

Afternoon Welder Use

by Nathan Kandus

Hello Folks at OMI! I hope your earth compressor is going well, I have been telling folks about the project. I am currently in a pickle with my own project, the 30' tall magnetic chaotic pendulum. I need a roof rack on my car in order to transport the stuff, but it seems that I cannot bring a car into the Crucible where I am working. I was wondering if it would be at all possible to stop by your space for a couple hours and make those welds. Please let me know if this could work! Thank You, Nathan Kandus A Chaotic Affair. www.nathankandus.com/Chaotic_Affair2.html

12 years, 11 months

Continuing tomorrow :)

by Morten H. D. Fuglsang

Awesome work today. We got a lot done, including dismantling the wooden storage monster, fixing the new mantable and putting it in place, mounting shelves on wall, placing new metal racks. The shop is a shit show right now. So we are continuing tomorrow from 10AM. Harr

12 years, 11 months

Work Party next Saturday.

by Morten H. D. Fuglsang

Yo peoples, This Saturday we've been building some random tidbits of stuff, and more importantly, talked shop organizing with Jessie.* Next Saturday will be a badass workparty with a focus on taking the shop to the next level - come along and invite your friends. From 10am. Blood, BBQ and Beers.* *The grand overview, floorplan:* https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1HY-XL7yZIrh1HsTZ_4_9tVZLnMUAJWQQjDvy6Tn… (apologize for google hre, seems way easiest) *Things to do (refer to floorplan linked)* - #1, metal rack and cut station area: - take down current metal rack (move metal outside) - put up new freestanding rack - move cutting tools to cutting station - #2, table area - move out the current project stash rack wooden thing (might be possible to just move it after removing a couple of bolts to the wall) - move it to room #2/outside - place new welding table in its place - #3, forge area - remove shelf that is to the wall. - generally make area ready for installing a forge - #4, misc table stuff area - move all stuff from wooden tables and metal shelves out on foor - move metal shelves to storing area - place grinder and misc handtools on wooden thing. - (#5 bike station, TBD) - Current table: Our current welding table will be there - #6, drill press and mill area - take down pegboard - move stuff away. - move mill from current metal table to wooden table - place drill presses and mill in place. - #7, crazy OMI office producitvity station - make/place slim table by the wall, to be our desk - stuff for organizing project papers, files, receipts, etc. - notes, project files etc. - #8, firstaid and stoage - combine metal shelves to be 2 rows and taller - get transparent plastic containers for storing misc stuff, place em on it! - place other stuff on it - get first aid gear. place it and mark it! - make a map of closest hospital; print and place. - Misc: - Get electric hoist from friend

12 years, 11 months

Sat

by Jonoakland

Looks good lets meet up at the shop tomaroe from noon 2 five Sent from my iPhone

12 years, 11 months

This sat

by Jonoakland

Im going over to the warehouse tonight Ill check and see how the art show thing is going ill see if it is doun and redy for us to get back in thare and geter dun ill send out a nuther thing If its on, if not then next week its on for sher.. Yours truely Sum guy

12 years, 11 months

Re: [omi] omi Digest, Vol 3, Issue 15

by corey.scher

Thank you. -corey scher 510.387-2010 Please excuse the typos from my mobile device. -------- Original message -------- From: Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com> Date: 04/26/2013 12:38 AM (GMT-07:00) To: Tom Fitzpatrick <fitzsnaggle(a)gmail.com> Cc: omi(a)lists.sudoroom.org Subject: Re: [omi] omi Digest, Vol 3, Issue 15 Brilliant. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Tom Fitzpatrick <fitzsnaggle(a)gmail.com> wrote: A couple of years ago when I was lurking OSE heavily, they were talking about how to get more people involved and utilize all of the people in their network. They failed at this tremendously. A major reason was that they required most people to come to Missouri to really be involved and already have the skills they needed. For other projects they made proposals and had people bid on them to develop, but this would only produce 1 iteration of the device - which is not so good. Marcin refused to alter the GVSC at all. He was convinced that this set of machines was the only set that should be built - however there are many synergies to be considered and many patterns that need to be tried. He ignored that fact that most people live in cities and that people of flooding in to them at an accelerated pace. He ignored a large lesson of Pattern Language that much of the concept was based on - the emotion needs to be there and a sense of ownership has to be there. Morale is multiplicative. Decision making has to be made at the right scale. Around that time they were talk on the forums about making it more social. They released a survey and had people make profiles. They talked about how funds were allocated - but it wasn't all forthcoming - Marcin complained loudly about all of his time being spent writing blog posts and pacifying people that he wasn't stealing their money. I suggested that people be able to pick which projects they funded to deaf ears. There were suggestions of gamifying, of giving everyone a personal blog, of different layers of solidity in the documentation (work being codified more and more as it was proven to work.) None of this came to pass because it wasn't there at the beginnning. The morale was sapped very quickly - collaborators were turned away in droves. DIYDrones did it right. That is the reason the have thrived and why they are not all in prison or largely ignored - even if they are on watchlists. They added a social component in the beginning - blogs posts, profiles, maps - and they bootstrapped from the beginning. It started as hobby and then they started selling kits because no good ones existed. Now Chris Anderson has quit his job as the editor of Wire to run the company with a high school student from Mexico he met from the site. Then there is Alchematter. It is a site being made by one of Marcin's collorabotors to basically be Instructables that you can fork - changing the design slightly, the materials - but being able to branch design and see how it connects - sort of like what James Burke has talked about with his Knowledge Web (which also hasn't come out) but for developing technology rather than just exploring it. OSE missed its opportunity to become the repository for all the worlds Open Hardware projects. Its real value has been how inspiring the collection of material in its Wiki is and the idea of being able to compete with industrial machine companies, public utilities, financial institutions - regardless of the value of any of its designs. If they had harnessed that - getting the amateurs involved with the experts - catologing all the forks, I'm sure the parts of the GVSC that actually mattered would be made by now. You can't pitch to people all the time. High minded talk can only motivate you for so long before it isn't yours anymore - no goal makes that being controlled worth it, the process affects the product. The meaning has to come from inside. Ask for help and show them it is fun. Let people choose the direction of their learning - there is no need to tell them what is important - that will only reflect your own opinion. Realize that building skills take years and that there is no "if we just." That makes you write off the amateurs because they don't have the skills you need immediately. If you catch yourself thinking that, realize that time won't stop once the goal has been reached. There is always something on the path - a reason to change directions. Rather its - how do we get there, what do we do if we fail, why did we fail? If you have to convince people that this is the only way to save the world - its not their world anymore, and its not worth saving. On 4/25/13, omi-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org <omi-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org> wrote: > Send omi mailing list submissions to > omi(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/omi > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > omi-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > omi-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of omi digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Test (corey.scher) > 2. Re: Test (Anthony Di Franco) > 3. Wut should we do ? (Jonoakland) > 4. Conversation Today [Was: Design rant & Wut should we do] > (Morten H. D. Fuglsang) > 5. Re: Conversation Today [Was: Design rant & Wut should we do] > (corey.scher) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:27:56 -0700 > From: "corey.scher" <corey.scher(a)riseup.net> > To: omi(a)lists.sudoroom.org > Subject: [omi] Test > Message-ID: <hor02fejqvewqkl40p7sq9sm.1366835276610(a)email.android.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Just checking to see if this message goes through.? > > Greetings! > > > -corey scher > 510.387-2010 > > Please excuse the typos from my mobile device. >

12 years, 11 months

Onwards!

by Morten H. D. Fuglsang

OMI! Nick (lurker on this list and I believe he visited the shop some weeks ago), Corey, Anthony and I met this evening at sudoroom. Take-aways: - The 4 of us were (not surprisingly) very aligned around why open hardware is important, mainly that it plays an important part in shaping a more awesome world. To distill this into a form that can be communicated, I have created this Etherpad where *we will co-create a mission statement and a list of our values. Add your .02$: https://pad.riseup.net/p/omi* - There are plenty of ideas for interesting technology that we *can* build should we choose. *Let us move forward by opening up for concrete project proposals.* My suggestion is that any proposal should cover both some intro to *what* it is, *why* it is important, and for *who*. - A lot of nuts and bolt stuff remain to be answered. Things like, how many projects can we handle at once? How do we organize our work? Planning? Status on the shop? *We will meet next Wednesday at 9PM @ sudo room *with a focus on answering these and talking about how we would like to organize the shop. Because* Saturday may 4th is the big Shop Re-make Day!*Remeber, no OMI this coming Saturday. Awesome. Attached are random unstructured scribbles from todays session if you are curious to what was exchanged :) Make a great day, Morten

12 years, 12 months

Re: [omi] omi Digest, Vol 3, Issue 15

by Tom Fitzpatrick

A couple of years ago when I was lurking OSE heavily, they were talking about how to get more people involved and utilize all of the people in their network. They failed at this tremendously. A major reason was that they required most people to come to Missouri to really be involved and already have the skills they needed. For other projects they made proposals and had people bid on them to develop, but this would only produce 1 iteration of the device - which is not so good. Marcin refused to alter the GVSC at all. He was convinced that this set of machines was the only set that should be built - however there are many synergies to be considered and many patterns that need to be tried. He ignored that fact that most people live in cities and that people of flooding in to them at an accelerated pace. He ignored a large lesson of Pattern Language that much of the concept was based on - the emotion needs to be there and a sense of ownership has to be there. Morale is multiplicative. Decision making has to be made at the right scale. Around that time they were talk on the forums about making it more social. They released a survey and had people make profiles. They talked about how funds were allocated - but it wasn't all forthcoming - Marcin complained loudly about all of his time being spent writing blog posts and pacifying people that he wasn't stealing their money. I suggested that people be able to pick which projects they funded to deaf ears. There were suggestions of gamifying, of giving everyone a personal blog, of different layers of solidity in the documentation (work being codified more and more as it was proven to work.) None of this came to pass because it wasn't there at the beginnning. The morale was sapped very quickly - collaborators were turned away in droves. DIYDrones did it right. That is the reason the have thrived and why they are not all in prison or largely ignored - even if they are on watchlists. They added a social component in the beginning - blogs posts, profiles, maps - and they bootstrapped from the beginning. It started as hobby and then they started selling kits because no good ones existed. Now Chris Anderson has quit his job as the editor of Wire to run the company with a high school student from Mexico he met from the site. Then there is Alchematter. It is a site being made by one of Marcin's collorabotors to basically be Instructables that you can fork - changing the design slightly, the materials - but being able to branch design and see how it connects - sort of like what James Burke has talked about with his Knowledge Web (which also hasn't come out) but for developing technology rather than just exploring it. OSE missed its opportunity to become the repository for all the worlds Open Hardware projects. Its real value has been how inspiring the collection of material in its Wiki is and the idea of being able to compete with industrial machine companies, public utilities, financial institutions - regardless of the value of any of its designs. If they had harnessed that - getting the amateurs involved with the experts - catologing all the forks, I'm sure the parts of the GVSC that actually mattered would be made by now. You can't pitch to people all the time. High minded talk can only motivate you for so long before it isn't yours anymore - no goal makes that being controlled worth it, the process affects the product. The meaning has to come from inside. Ask for help and show them it is fun. Let people choose the direction of their learning - there is no need to tell them what is important - that will only reflect your own opinion. Realize that building skills take years and that there is no "if we just." That makes you write off the amateurs because they don't have the skills you need immediately. If you catch yourself thinking that, realize that time won't stop once the goal has been reached. There is always something on the path - a reason to change directions. Rather its - how do we get there, what do we do if we fail, why did we fail? If you have to convince people that this is the only way to save the world - its not their world anymore, and its not worth saving. On 4/25/13, omi-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org <omi-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org> wrote: > Send omi mailing list submissions to > omi(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/omi > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > omi-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > omi-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of omi digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Test (corey.scher) > 2. Re: Test (Anthony Di Franco) > 3. Wut should we do ? (Jonoakland) > 4. Conversation Today [Was: Design rant & Wut should we do] > (Morten H. D. Fuglsang) > 5. Re: Conversation Today [Was: Design rant & Wut should we do] > (corey.scher) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:27:56 -0700 > From: "corey.scher" <corey.scher(a)riseup.net> > To: omi(a)lists.sudoroom.org > Subject: [omi] Test > Message-ID: <hor02fejqvewqkl40p7sq9sm.1366835276610(a)email.android.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Just checking to see if this message goes through.? > > Greetings! > > > -corey scher > 510.387-2010 > > Please excuse the typos from my mobile device. >

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