Hi all,
Big progress made this weekend. Awesome energy!
There is still work to be done in the shop with regards to organizing.
Jessie will hopefully find time to properly weld-assemble the new steel
racks before the weekend, which means that Saturday, the list of things to
do is as follow:
*Things to do (refer to floorplan linked -- *
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1HY-XL7yZIrh1HsTZ_4_9tVZLnMUAJWQQjDvy6Tn…
)
- #1, metal rack and cut station area:
- put steel on rack
- move cutting tools to cutting station
- #3, forge area
- generally make area ready for installing a forge
- #4, misc table stuff area
- place grinder and misc handtools on wooden thing.
- (#5 bike station, TBD)
- Current table: Our current welding table will be there
- #6, drill press and mill area
- move stuff away.
- move mill from current metal table to wooden table
- place drill presses and mill in place.
- #7, crazy OMI office producitvity station
- place new desk in place.
- stuff for organizing project papers, files, receipts, etc.
- notes, project files etc.
- put whiteboard on wall
- #8, firstaid and stoage
- get transparent plastic containers for storing misc stuff, place em
on it!
- make a map of closest hospital; print and place.
- LABELS! Label things and areas.
Hello Folks at OMI!
I hope your earth compressor is going well, I have been telling folks about
the project. I am currently in a pickle with my own project, the 30' tall
magnetic chaotic pendulum. I need a roof rack on my car in order to
transport the stuff, but it seems that I cannot bring a car into the
Crucible where I am working. I was wondering if it would be at all possible
to stop by your space for a couple hours and make those welds. Please let
me know if this could work!
Thank You,
Nathan Kandus
A Chaotic Affair.
www.nathankandus.com/Chaotic_Affair2.html
Awesome work today. We got a lot done, including dismantling the wooden
storage monster, fixing the new mantable and putting it in place, mounting
shelves on wall, placing new metal racks.
The shop is a shit show right now. So we are continuing tomorrow from 10AM.
Harr
Yo peoples,
This Saturday we've been building some random tidbits of stuff, and more
importantly, talked shop organizing with Jessie.* Next Saturday will be a
badass workparty with a focus on taking the shop to the next level - come
along and invite your friends. From 10am. Blood, BBQ and Beers.*
*The grand overview, floorplan:*
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1HY-XL7yZIrh1HsTZ_4_9tVZLnMUAJWQQjDvy6Tn…
(apologize for google hre, seems way easiest)
*Things to do (refer to floorplan linked)*
- #1, metal rack and cut station area:
- take down current metal rack (move metal outside)
- put up new freestanding rack
- move cutting tools to cutting station
- #2, table area
- move out the current project stash rack wooden thing (might be
possible to just move it after removing a couple of bolts to the wall)
- move it to room #2/outside
- place new welding table in its place
- #3, forge area
- remove shelf that is to the wall.
- generally make area ready for installing a forge
- #4, misc table stuff area
- move all stuff from wooden tables and metal shelves out on foor
- move metal shelves to storing area
- place grinder and misc handtools on wooden thing.
- (#5 bike station, TBD)
- Current table: Our current welding table will be there
- #6, drill press and mill area
- take down pegboard
- move stuff away.
- move mill from current metal table to wooden table
- place drill presses and mill in place.
- #7, crazy OMI office producitvity station
- make/place slim table by the wall, to be our desk
- stuff for organizing project papers, files, receipts, etc.
- notes, project files etc.
- #8, firstaid and stoage
- combine metal shelves to be 2 rows and taller
- get transparent plastic containers for storing misc stuff, place em
on it!
- place other stuff on it
- get first aid gear. place it and mark it!
- make a map of closest hospital; print and place.
- Misc:
- Get electric hoist from friend
Im going over to the warehouse tonight
Ill check and see how the art show thing is going ill see if it is doun and redy for us to get back in thare and geter dun ill send out a nuther thing
If its on, if not then next week its on for sher..
Yours truely
Sum guy
Thank you.
-corey scher
510.387-2010
Please excuse the typos from my mobile device.
-------- Original message --------
From: Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com>
Date: 04/26/2013 12:38 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: Tom Fitzpatrick <fitzsnaggle(a)gmail.com>
Cc: omi(a)lists.sudoroom.org
Subject: Re: [omi] omi Digest, Vol 3, Issue 15
Brilliant.
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Tom Fitzpatrick <fitzsnaggle(a)gmail.com> wrote:
A couple of years ago when I was lurking OSE heavily, they were
talking about how to get more people involved and utilize all of the
people in their network. They failed at this tremendously. A major
reason was that they required most people to come to Missouri to
really be involved and already have the skills they needed. For other
projects they made proposals and had people bid on them to develop,
but this would only produce 1 iteration of the device - which is not
so good.
Marcin refused to alter the GVSC at all. He was convinced that this
set of machines was the only set that should be built - however there
are many synergies to be considered and many patterns that need to be
tried. He ignored that fact that most people live in cities and that
people of flooding in to them at an accelerated pace. He ignored a
large lesson of Pattern Language that much of the concept was based on
- the emotion needs to be there and a sense of ownership has to be
there. Morale is multiplicative. Decision making has to be made at the
right scale.
Around that time they were talk on the forums about making it more
social. They released a survey and had people make profiles. They
talked about how funds were allocated - but it wasn't all forthcoming
- Marcin complained loudly about all of his time being spent writing
blog posts and pacifying people that he wasn't stealing their money. I
suggested that people be able to pick which projects they funded to
deaf ears. There were suggestions of gamifying, of giving everyone a
personal blog, of different layers of solidity in the documentation
(work being codified more and more as it was proven to work.) None of
this came to pass because it wasn't there at the beginnning. The
morale was sapped very quickly - collaborators were turned away in
droves.
DIYDrones did it right. That is the reason the have thrived and why
they are not all in prison or largely ignored - even if they are on
watchlists. They added a social component in the beginning - blogs
posts, profiles, maps - and they bootstrapped from the beginning. It
started as hobby and then they started selling kits because no good
ones existed. Now Chris Anderson has quit his job as the editor of
Wire to run the company with a high school student from Mexico he met
from the site.
Then there is Alchematter. It is a site being made by one of Marcin's
collorabotors to basically be Instructables that you can fork -
changing the design slightly, the materials - but being able to branch
design and see how it connects - sort of like what James Burke has
talked about with his Knowledge Web (which also hasn't come out) but
for developing technology rather than just exploring it. OSE missed
its opportunity to become the repository for all the worlds Open
Hardware projects. Its real value has been how inspiring the
collection of material in its Wiki is and the idea of being able to
compete with industrial machine companies, public utilities, financial
institutions - regardless of the value of any of its designs. If they
had harnessed that - getting the amateurs involved with the experts -
catologing all the forks, I'm sure the parts of the GVSC that actually
mattered would be made by now.
You can't pitch to people all the time. High minded talk can only
motivate you for so long before it isn't yours anymore - no goal makes
that being controlled worth it, the process affects the product. The
meaning has to come from inside. Ask for help and show them it is fun.
Let people choose the direction of their learning - there is no need
to tell them what is important - that will only reflect your own
opinion. Realize that building skills take years and that there is no
"if we just." That makes you write off the amateurs because they don't
have the skills you need immediately. If you catch yourself thinking
that, realize that time won't stop once the goal has been reached.
There is always something on the path - a reason to change directions.
Rather its - how do we get there, what do we do if we fail, why did we
fail? If you have to convince people that this is the only way to save
the world - its not their world anymore, and its not worth saving.
On 4/25/13, omi-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org
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OMI!
Nick (lurker on this list and I believe he visited the shop some weeks
ago), Corey, Anthony and I met this evening at sudoroom. Take-aways:
- The 4 of us were (not surprisingly) very aligned around why open
hardware is important, mainly that it plays an important part in shaping a
more awesome world. To distill this into a form that can be communicated, I
have created this Etherpad where *we will co-create a mission statement
and a list of our values. Add your .02$: https://pad.riseup.net/p/omi*
- There are plenty of ideas for interesting technology that we *can*
build should we choose. *Let us move forward by opening up for concrete
project proposals.* My suggestion is that any proposal should cover both
some intro to *what* it is, *why* it is important, and for *who*.
- A lot of nuts and bolt stuff remain to be answered. Things like, how
many projects can we handle at once? How do we organize our work? Planning?
Status on the shop? *We will meet next Wednesday at 9PM @ sudo room *with
a focus on answering these and talking about how we would like to organize
the shop.
Because* Saturday may 4th is the big Shop Re-make Day!*Remeber, no OMI this
coming Saturday.
Awesome. Attached are random unstructured scribbles from todays session if
you are curious to what was exchanged :)
Make a great day,
Morten
A couple of years ago when I was lurking OSE heavily, they were
talking about how to get more people involved and utilize all of the
people in their network. They failed at this tremendously. A major
reason was that they required most people to come to Missouri to
really be involved and already have the skills they needed. For other
projects they made proposals and had people bid on them to develop,
but this would only produce 1 iteration of the device - which is not
so good.
Marcin refused to alter the GVSC at all. He was convinced that this
set of machines was the only set that should be built - however there
are many synergies to be considered and many patterns that need to be
tried. He ignored that fact that most people live in cities and that
people of flooding in to them at an accelerated pace. He ignored a
large lesson of Pattern Language that much of the concept was based on
- the emotion needs to be there and a sense of ownership has to be
there. Morale is multiplicative. Decision making has to be made at the
right scale.
Around that time they were talk on the forums about making it more
social. They released a survey and had people make profiles. They
talked about how funds were allocated - but it wasn't all forthcoming
- Marcin complained loudly about all of his time being spent writing
blog posts and pacifying people that he wasn't stealing their money. I
suggested that people be able to pick which projects they funded to
deaf ears. There were suggestions of gamifying, of giving everyone a
personal blog, of different layers of solidity in the documentation
(work being codified more and more as it was proven to work.) None of
this came to pass because it wasn't there at the beginnning. The
morale was sapped very quickly - collaborators were turned away in
droves.
DIYDrones did it right. That is the reason the have thrived and why
they are not all in prison or largely ignored - even if they are on
watchlists. They added a social component in the beginning - blogs
posts, profiles, maps - and they bootstrapped from the beginning. It
started as hobby and then they started selling kits because no good
ones existed. Now Chris Anderson has quit his job as the editor of
Wire to run the company with a high school student from Mexico he met
from the site.
Then there is Alchematter. It is a site being made by one of Marcin's
collorabotors to basically be Instructables that you can fork -
changing the design slightly, the materials - but being able to branch
design and see how it connects - sort of like what James Burke has
talked about with his Knowledge Web (which also hasn't come out) but
for developing technology rather than just exploring it. OSE missed
its opportunity to become the repository for all the worlds Open
Hardware projects. Its real value has been how inspiring the
collection of material in its Wiki is and the idea of being able to
compete with industrial machine companies, public utilities, financial
institutions - regardless of the value of any of its designs. If they
had harnessed that - getting the amateurs involved with the experts -
catologing all the forks, I'm sure the parts of the GVSC that actually
mattered would be made by now.
You can't pitch to people all the time. High minded talk can only
motivate you for so long before it isn't yours anymore - no goal makes
that being controlled worth it, the process affects the product. The
meaning has to come from inside. Ask for help and show them it is fun.
Let people choose the direction of their learning - there is no need
to tell them what is important - that will only reflect your own
opinion. Realize that building skills take years and that there is no
"if we just." That makes you write off the amateurs because they don't
have the skills you need immediately. If you catch yourself thinking
that, realize that time won't stop once the goal has been reached.
There is always something on the path - a reason to change directions.
Rather its - how do we get there, what do we do if we fail, why did we
fail? If you have to convince people that this is the only way to save
the world - its not their world anymore, and its not worth saving.
On 4/25/13, omi-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Test (corey.scher)
> 2. Re: Test (Anthony Di Franco)
> 3. Wut should we do ? (Jonoakland)
> 4. Conversation Today [Was: Design rant & Wut should we do]
> (Morten H. D. Fuglsang)
> 5. Re: Conversation Today [Was: Design rant & Wut should we do]
> (corey.scher)
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> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:27:56 -0700
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> To: omi(a)lists.sudoroom.org
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> Greetings!
>
>
> -corey scher
> 510.387-2010
>
> Please excuse the typos from my mobile device.
>