TBH I never knew those 4 stations were communal. Never seen the one at north end of the table on, can try to turn it on last time. The other ones mentioned kinda dismiss the purpose of a coding night which is everyone close by at a table where collaboration is easier. But yea, signs would help people to know they are allowed to use them.

But I understand the clustering factor for the Tuesday Hardware hacking, so maybe I should focus on the laptops like Jake mentioned, which can be put away when done with the event. We're actually doing this as well, I just went last week and took a look at most laptops, put the working ones (as in it turns on and boots) in one of the lockers. And the non working/missing parts ones on a shelf in the back of the room. 


On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 8:16 PM Jake <jake@spaz.org> wrote:
I think it's great that you got the iMac working, but I worry that we're
taking up too much space with public desktop computers.

And if the two near the laser cutter weren't in use because people didn't know
about them...maybe we need a better sign?

I just don't want the main table to get cluttered with computers, i've heard
in the past that it really makes the space a lot more welcoming to have open
space on the main tables.

I would like if people would adopt / take home / donate things like the iMac
and try to make better use of the existing public computers.  And for events
when more computers are needed, we should have a set of working laptops (even
though maybe their batteries don't work) that can be used in open spaces, and
then put away when we're done.

-jake

On Fri, 7 Apr 2023, Jonathan Cadle via sudo-discuss wrote:

> The iMac is quite usable, 4GB of RAM, and now has Debian 11 (with KDE Plasma) on it. One of the Mac Minis is also working now, but with 500MB of RAM, will be of limited use. If it was up to me, I'd toss some retro console emulators on it and call it a day. The other Mac mini, however, was refusing to boot from CD or from USB, and when disassembled so that we could load the drive using another machine, is no longer booting (I suspect something unfortunate happened to the daughterboard that the mini mounts the hard drive with). I don't think further work on it is a good use of anyone's time. I also have my own mac mini, which I'm happy to donate as a communal station if it would be useful. Otherwise, I'm happy to keep it at home as a spare.
>
> I think the idea is to have one or two stations on the main table so that for coding nights, newer folks or people without their own computers can be seated with the group. I'm not sure everyone is aware of the upstairs computer, or the ones by the laser cutter.
>
> I enjoy getting these old machines in working order, so if we have more that are salvagable, I'm happy to help. As it is now, it seems like we have more desktops than we have keyboards for (as I mentioned to Juliana), and we seem to have several laptops with no power supplies. If we need to make room for newer donations, perhaps it's time to salvage parts that are usable (RAM, drives, etc.)? We could organize a day/evening to get together and make it a group activity.
>
> Jonathan
>
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Thursday, April 6th, 2023 at 6:59 PM, Jake Watters via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:
>
>> There are at least four public terminals working, including the one at the north end of the table, two behind the laser cutter (one on each side), and the upstairs one across from the 3D printers.
>>
>> There are also a couple of Apple iMac things on the table right now which take up a lot of space - I think someone should adopt them and take them home, or they can be recycled if they're no good.
>>
>> There is a bin on the shelves labeled MICE which should contain a couple of working USB mouses, but we are a little low on keyboards.
>>
>> -jake
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 6:39 PM Juliana A via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I was talking to Jonathan Cadle and we're working on having accessible computers for those who dont have one/cant bring it to sudo room. They are working on creating "communal stations", which would be desktop computers plugged ins, with some basic linux os and ready for use by anyone.
>>>
>>> But we dont have keyboard / mouses enough. Posting here first to see if anyone has spare ones. Or brainstorm where we could get donations. I'll think/ask around and post my findings here.
>>>
>>> I think rn we have one communal station working. It would be nice to have a couple!
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