Hi all,

I think this is an important conversation to have as we're trying to become a more inviting space for the community to gather.

I volunteer with a non-hierarchical collective in Berkeley, and while their system isn't perfect, it might be closer to what we want. Anyone can drop in to volunteer. If you want to be a voting member, you have to volunteer for at least 3 shifts and do an interview with at least two other members. To maintain membership, you have to show up to at least two shifts per month and follow the community guidelines.

My thoughts:
- It might be nicer to schedule interviews with people who want to be members rather than putting the burden on them to "get recommendations".
- NEED does a lot of work tracking and scheduling, so more work on the parts of established members (myself included) may be required to make the organization more transparent and inclusive.
- The mission of Sudo Room, as I understand it, is currently less about doing some kind of work than it is about being an available space for people to gather and find community. Maybe that could change?

Just some thoughts. Again, I'm not saying that the NEED model is perfect or anything, but I think there is a lot of value in being more organized and transparent. I really appreciate Andy's continued efforts to nudge us in this direction.

Thanks,
--Elaine

El vie, 25 ago 2023 a la(s) 14:00, Jonathan Cadle via sudo-discuss (sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org) escribió:
Thank you for getting this conversation started, Andrew!

While I think the easiest place to start is with the language we use  when promoting our events (emphasizing that membership is not required to attend), perhaps we can also make Sudoroom's status as a public (or semi-public) space more explicit in our communications as well.

Also, since we've been working to find uses for the other 3 Wednesdays of the month, what if we had a day that was specifically aimed at newcomers to Sudoroom? We could have a loose structure for the evening (it doesn't have to be a Wednesday; in fact, perhaps it shouldn't be, as that doesn't seem like a convenient day for most folks).
Example:
7pm: Sudoroom Introduction/tour of the space
7:30: Individual introductions (current projects? projects you want to start but don't know how? how can we help?)
8/8:30pm: Workshop/Presentation/Movie - e.g. screening of Hackers/Johnny Mnemonic/etc., Demonstration of Sudoroom AI art projects, Workshop on hardening your web browser against ad tracking

------- Original Message -------
On Friday, August 25th, 2023 at 11:54 AM, Andrew R Gross via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:

Hey everyone,

I've been focusing on serving the membership working group for a few months, and I'd like to highlight some issues I see with our new member joining process.

1. It's not clear what membership means. Longtime sudo room members have told me that membership isn't necessary to participate, it's just a designation that allows you to weigh in on consensus proposals and endorse members. This isn't the impression the word has with any new members I've spoken to, though. The term for most people signifies belonging, and an allowance to attend events, and this misunderstanding is particularly accute in my experience when dealing with BiPOC folks, women, anyone new to tech or hackerspaces... just anyone who doesn't arrive with a preexisting sense of belonging to the dominant cultural ingroup.

2. The new member process puts up a lot of barriers to joining. When people discover Sudo Room, they often arrive with a sense of excitement to dive in, and then when I start walking through the steps, I watch all that excitement dissipate. The endorsement process, for instance, feels like a massive mud patch on a foot track. It seems to interrupt people's ability to focus on learning about who we are by creating an open-ended social challenge. Once again, I don't think tech bros who show up or have been members since the begining experience this at all, but if you're new to the town, or you've never been part of a hackerspace, this is stressful and confusing. I felt this way when I joined, and a new member just told me exactly this: they're non-white, their non-male, and they've never felt like tech spaces were built with them in mind. They really went outside their comfort zone and met people at events and got the endorsements, but it seems to be working completely against our interests to put up an obstacle that selectively filters people like this. Then there's a long wait where nothing happens, and often no one ever tells a new member that their membership was approved.

As an exercise I would like to invite people to respond to this email and answer these two questions:

What roles you think exist in our community? and What processes are effective for helping people enter into it?

I'm not interested in hearing defenses of the current system. That's not the exercise. Imagine we're starting from scratch. Maybe, we'll come to find that the current system actually fulfills certain aims well, but I don't want to frame this as a change, I want to imagine the process for helping people become at home at Sudo from a blank page.

Cheers,

Andy

Andrew R Gross, (he/him)
412.657.5332 - shrad.org

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