Edwin I wish you wouldn't write quite this way to this list, even though I agree with your point in principle.

I know I may have set a bad example in some of my messages to Yar but the wording and theme of your message really doesn't seem appropriate.  Please help keep this list non-gross.

Also Yar has already acknowledged in another email that PP is not a good fit for us (literally an employee of PressTV)

-jake

On Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 11:38 Edwinsaurus <plutosaurus@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Yar, I don't think "passing the baton to them (people's programs) is a wise idea.  Getting a good vibe when looking into someone's eyes at an event may work sometimes when deciding if we should sleep with them, but there is a lot more at stake here and any future partners need to be thoroughly vetted.  Agree?  Keep looking.  Thanks.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 10:49 PM Yardena Cohen via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:

> This was an explicit death wish and nonconsensual photography
> Why would you expect the victim to come forward for mediation?

She already has, and we are working to resolve this conflict. There is no death wish. The main issues here are fears and tensions among local black, iranian and palestinian communities, and I believe justice can be arrived at with patience and understanding.

> they will put it toward a charitable purpose, such as low-income housing

So you'd rather see the building knocked down, than share it with PP? Are we that petty??

PP made a great proposal with significant overtures and concessions to us. It's legally very open-ended. This is an opportunity for Jesse to write a counter-proposal/MOU with fine print giving protections & guarantees to us and the building, while still honoring everything they explicitly asked for.

I strongly disagree with some of PP's politics, but unlike CLP, these are honest people grounded in community with long-standing local ties. They live here, use their real names, don't hide behind anonymous protonmails or sock puppets. Unlike CLP, they have a genuine desire to use restorative justice to resolve petty disputes, rather than just use politics as an excuse to treat people like shit. Unlike CLP, our differences can be resolved with time and good faith.

CLP are assholes, and CLP definitely wanted to bring in PP for ideological reasons. PP also took the CLP lies at face value, boosted them, and came in hot on us. This was bad judgement, but doesn't mean conspiracy. Frankly I don't blame them for assuming their comrades' post was true, and if it was, then we'd have deserved it.

Of all the options I've seen so far, PP is by far the best. They're not perfect, but nobody is. When I look into folks' eyes at their People's Breakfast program, I see a large community of wonderful radical folks who are ready to do hard work and take ownership of something big. I see us 10 years ago. I would feel good passing the baton to them.

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