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   1. Re: Foreclosure (Kent Leech)
   2. Re: Need pictures of sudoroom in action! (Kent Leech)
   3. Re: sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 139, Issue 7 (s maroukis)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 07 May 2024 09:47:08 -0700
From: Kent Leech <kent@kentleech.com>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: Foreclosure
To: Jake <jake@spaz.org>,       William Myers
        <williamrmyers@gmail.com>
Cc: sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org
Message-ID: <E25FA904.1958BE%kent@kentleech.com>
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I also prefer Option 1.

CAST-
https://cast-sf.org/


-Kent
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jake via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org>
Reply-To: Jake <jake@spaz.org>
Date: Thu, May 2, 2024 at 6:09 PM
To: William Myers <williamrmyers@gmail.com>
Cc: <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: Foreclosure

>That's great that we're working with CAST!
>
>Option #1 looks great, and state law already gives us 90 days after any
>notice
>of default is filed by our lender. Even if that formally happened last
>week,
>we still have plenty of time to keep the building with CAST.
>
>Regarding the other options 2 and 3:
>Three months ago, Sudoroom discussed and formally voted not to move
>forward with people's programs and nothing has changed since then.
>If they want to try again, they'll have to propose it (along with
>explaining
>whatever has changed since last time) and then we can call a meeting to
>talk
>about it.  I don't think Sudoroom will decide any differently than before.
>
>For context, the people wanting us to join with Peoples Programs have
>pushed
>really hard for that partnership but several collectives have given a
>clear No
>for an answer, and it's inappropriate that they keep trying to pressure us
>into that relationship.  Unfortunately they have a pattern of trying to
>mobilize concern over timelines and the emergency of foreclosure to
>pressure
>us, along with other pressure tactics.
>
>Fortunately we should be able to easily move forward with just CAST!
>
>-jake
>
>On Thu, 2 May 2024, William Myers via sudo-discuss wrote:
>
>> Hello SUDOers,
>>
>> Tonight we are having our third meeting with CAST and we will be
>>discussing
>> moving forward on the 3 following plans.
>>
>>
>>   1. Work with CAST. They will try to get an extension for 90 days from
>>   Mulberry, then CAST will use the time to fundraise to buy the building
>>   outright. Afterward we would be subject to more strict rules imposed
>>by
>>   CAST about Zoning laws, maintenance, firecodes etc.
>>
>>
>>   2. People program buys the building outright in the next 2 days and
>>they
>>   run the ballroom, and manage the building.
>>
>>
>>   3. A combination of 1 and 2, CAST buys the building and People
>>Programs
>>   supply's the funds. We would be subject to the CAST’s rules as in 1
>>but
>>   would also provide people programs some ownership.
>>
>> I favor 1 as a sure thing, but will be considering all options, I would
>> like to get feedback on how SUDO would vote to support these options.
>>Feel
>> free to reply to the thread, or reply to me directly.
>>
>> Best
>> William
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 4:57 PM William Myers <williamrmyers@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello SUDO,
>>>
>>> I'm sorry to announce that the Foreclosure is moving forward and will
>>>have
>>> ~ 90 days to come up with around 1 million dollars or the building can
>>>be
>>> sold.
>>>
>>> - We will keep the ball rolling with our conversations with CAST to
>>> potentially come up with the needed funds
>>> - We will of course be looking into any other funding options, ideas
>>>are
>>> always welcome
>>>
>>>
>>> Best
>>> William
>>>
>>> *Below is correspondence and some notes from our Lawyer: *
>>>
>>>
>>> *Just wanted to let you know that the Mulberry Trust will be proceeding
>>> with foreclosing on the property. A new trustee will be taking over the
>>> work and proceed with the foreclosure. Mulberry Trust also wanted to
>>>let
>>> you know that they'll be adding a late fee of $283.90 to the principal
>>> since Omni didn't make a payment for April. Once the foreclosure is
>>>filed,
>>> they won't be able to accept any further payments. It's truly
>>>unfortunate
>>> that this happened but the MT did not have any other choice given the
>>> circumstances, and it does not look like there will be an assignment
>>>of the
>>> note to another individual or entity. *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Below is an email I sent you previously regarding the timeline and
>>>Omni's
>>> right to pay the debt even after foreclosure begins.  Note that the
>>>longer
>>> you wait, the more legal incurred by lender Omni will have to pay.
>>>Let me
>>> know if there's any way I can help.*
>>>
>>> *----*
>>>
>>> *If they proceed as quickly as possible, they can schedule a*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *foreclosure sale no sooner than 90 days after the date on which
>>> theyrecord a notice of default.  Because the loan is a commercial loan,
>>> itis on a fast timeline.1.  They have to give you notice of recording
>>>the
>>> notice of default.After the notice of default is recorded, the lender
>>>has
>>> to mail, post,record and publish a notice of sale.Omni has a right to
>>>pay
>>> the debt up to 5 business days before theforeclosure sale date.  (See
>>>Civil
>>> Code Section 2924c(e).   The dateis extended in various ways if the
>>> foreclosure sale doesn't happen.*
>>>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 07 May 2024 12:05:30 -0700
From: Kent Leech <kent@kentleech.com>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: Need pictures of sudoroom in action!
To: Jake Watters <typeinthenumber@gmail.com>,   SudoRoom
        <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org>
Message-ID: <E25FA962.1958C4%kent@kentleech.com>
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Have you scraped Sudo¹s instagram feed? I¹ll see what I can dig up on my
phone and send it over. Peter Mui should have some good pics as well.

Here¹s some key things Cere and I thought of that Sudo has brought to the
community-



Fixit clinic; empowering the right to repair



Hacking synthesizers, electronic music



Bicycle lighting party



Women/Non-binary coding night



Fixing/hacking scientific equipment



Women who code



Free laptops



Solar power storage battery design



Laser cutting projects



Open lab for folks to create



Free Access to electronic materials


Incubator for a variety of art projects

Repair for sound equipment used for events

-Kent
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From:  Jake Watters via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org>
Reply-To:  Jake Watters <typeinthenumber@gmail.com>
Date:  Mon, May 6, 2024 at 11:20 PM
To:  SudoRoom <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org>
Subject:  [sudo-discuss] Need pictures of sudoroom in action!

> We need pictures of sudoroom and the people in it doing cool stuff!  We're
> making a presentation for potential lenders who need to see how awesome
> sudoroom is!
>
> Presently missing pictures of people hacking raw electronics, using the laser
> cutter, and the wood shop and lathe!
>
> Try to upload links to pictures, rather than the pictures themselves, if you
> have a Google photos link for example. Or if you only are able to email the
> pictures, just email them to me not to the list!
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Date: Tue, 7 May 2024 16:07:12 -0400
From: s maroukis <smaroukis@gmail.com>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 139, Issue 7
To: Romy Ilano <romy@snowyla.com>
Cc: sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org
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Awesome, I would love to hear more about your japanese notecard approach.

I'm an unabashed Obsidian + Anki user - and I think there are
tools/scripts/plugings that can resurface content "just in time" -- but
there is a danger of throwing everything in a digital file never to be seen
again.

How about a show and tell of current systems, would you be able to do a
recording at Sudoroom and I will set one up at THS? For me it will have to
be next month.

Some other questions:
- how do you begin to know what you don't know? How to create a syllabus
for a new domain of knowledge - what is too deep and what is too shallow -
mind mapping, skill trees etc
- how to organize analog notes - how to do "analog search"
- gamifying learning so that you actually want to review the things you
studied
- project based learning - how can you learn something new through a
project, but not get frustrated that you don't know the thing you are
trying to learn through the project...
- sharing list of resources, hackerspace wikis etc


On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 13:05 Romy Ilano <romy@snowyla.com> wrote:

> Spencer this is awesome!
>
> Let's connect SudoRoom with Tokyo Hackerspace and beyond!
>
> On a side note I found that my study has become much more effective after
> picking up some paper flashcards and Japanese style study notes in analog.
>
>
>
> >>> Hi, chiming in from Tokyo here https://www.tokyohackerspace.jp/ , I'm
> very
> interested in this topic and have been thinking about it a lot recently
> with the new copilot tools.
> >>> re: what do you do with analog notes
>
>
> Yes I'm fascinated by this too. I find electronic notetaking much too
> ephemeral for true learning, it's also dangerous to pack all your knowledge
> in the same device that has your social media, LinkedIn, etc.
>
> I am experimenting with locking my iPad, having two tablets. There are
> settings where you can remove social media etc. as well.
>
> I use Goodnotes and Notion heavily, I know people use Obsidian. How do we
> use these systems effectively? I'm starting to believe that it's harmful to
> rely entirely on ebooks and electronics though.
>
>
>
> =============================
>
> Romy Ilano
> romy@snowyla.com
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 4:28 PM <sudo-discuss-request@sudoroom.org> wrote:
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>>    1. Re: test of sending (Charley Sheets)
>>    2. Re: Learning how to learn / hacking learning and note taking
>> subgroup at SudoRoom
>>       (s maroukis)
>>    3. Re: Need funds for May Mulberry mortgage payment
>>       (Omni Commons Bookkeeper)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 06 May 2024 19:42:23 +0000
>> From: Charley Sheets <sudo@rcsheets.com>
>> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: test of sending
>> To: Ira Brightman <ira997@gmail.com>
>> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org>
>> Message-ID: <Q-Sme-QVzzI9-cHYoqbCBLhvlzJvfLyeR15bqTWZVtV8sJXwutWgXCSZD
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>> Seems successful to me.
>>
>> Sent from [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) for iOS
>>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 12:39 PM, Ira Brightman via sudo-discuss <[
>> sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org](mailto:On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 12:39 PM, Ira
>> Brightman via sudo-discuss <<a href=)> wrote:
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>> Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 16:46:44 -0400
>> From: s maroukis <smaroukis@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: Learning how to learn / hacking learning
>>         and note taking subgroup at SudoRoom
>> To: Romy Ilano <romy@snowyla.com>
>> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org>
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>>
>> Hi, chiming in from Tokyo here https://www.tokyohackerspace.jp/ , I'm
>> very
>> interested in this topic and have been thinking about it a lot recently
>> with the new copilot tools.
>>
>> I was looking to set up a similar meeting at Tokyo Hackerspace, although I
>> think I'm more interested in using digital tools to point to gaps in
>> knowledge (which would require a digital knowledgebase / PKM to scan) than
>> a focus on why analog tools are useful. I definitely agree with the
>> benefits of handwriting notes especially for drawing diagrams/etc while
>> learning, but what do you do once you've taken all the handwritten notes?
>> You need to process them still - I think digital tools are great for that.
>> Would love to talk more and see what topics come up at sudo.
>>
>> If people show interest I'd love to join a group chat/ discussion thread
>> on
>> it and maybe I can host one in Tokyo with sudo's discussions as fodder.
>>
>> Spencer
>> https://maroukis.net
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 1:46 PM Romy Ilano via sudo-discuss <
>> sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Speaking to folks at Noisebridge, but I'm thinking of starting a
>> learning
>> > how to learn subgroup at SudoRoom.
>> >
>> > This would include topics such as:
>> > - Switching back to analog for notetaking and learning
>> > - Mixing analog notes and ebooks
>> > - doing digital detox on your laptops and phones and tablets so that
>> they
>> > become learning devices instead of consumption devices
>> > - Creating a picture of new technologies like AI which seem to be
>> > constantly changing
>> >
>> > I'm not sure what a good time to meet for this would be... I'm guessing
>> > Tuesday? I am not sure I can come in this week though! I have job
>> > interviews. But I think cross meeting between SudoRoom, Noisebridge and
>> > other spaces is ideal!
>> >
>> >
>> > =============================
>> >
>> > Romy Ilano
>> > romy@snowyla.com
>> >
>> >
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>> Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 16:27:33 -0700
>> From: Omni Commons Bookkeeper <omnicommonsfinances@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: Need funds for May Mulberry mortgage
>>         payment
>> To: Paige P <pgeplan@gmail.com>
>> Cc: SudoRoom <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org>, omnidelegates
>>         <omnidelegates@googlegroups.com>
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>> The MT payment has been posted
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2024-05-06 162654.png]
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 10:02 PM Paige P <pgeplan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Ok, thanks for response and checking tomorrow
>> >
>> > Paige
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 5, 2024, 9:22 PM Omni Commons Bookkeeper <
>> > omnicommonsfinances@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I believe it’s still pending because it’s the weekend and not a
>> business
>> >> day. The settlement date indicates 5/6/2024, so it should clear
>> tomorrow.
>> >> I’ll check unify tomorrow to make sure.
>> >>
>> >> M
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 7:56 PM Paige P <pgeplan@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi again M and others,
>> >>>
>> >>> I see the payment (made on May 2) is listed as "Pending."
>> >>>
>> >>> Is this something we should be concerned about on our end? Or is it
>> >>> likely that this is pending on Mulberry's side (which would also be
>> >>> something to be concerned about on our end)?
>> >>> [image: Screenshot 2024-05-05 at 12-48-19 UNIFY Financial Credit Union
>> >>> Account Details.png]
>> >>> If unknown I was thinking of calling Unify tomorrow,
>> >>>
>> >>> Paige
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 4:39 PM Omni Commons Bookkeeper <
>> >>> omnicommonsfinances@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Update (just met w/ Paige and Silver): We transferred $3,100 from
>> >>>> Sudoroom to Omni - $2k advancement for June's rent and $1,100
>> advancement
>> >>>> to cover MT mortgage. Just processed the MT payment for May so we
>> should be
>> >>>> good now.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> M
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 2:41 PM Jake <jake@spaz.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I believe that sudoroom discussed this at a meeting a few weeks ago,
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> agreed that prepaying a month of rent in this situation would be
>> >>>>> acceptable.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -jake
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, 2 May 2024, Paige P via sudo-discuss wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> Can collectives be prepared to prepay April *June *if necessary?
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Given the time it takes for external transfers to come in, the
>> only
>> >>>>> way to
>> >>>>> > pay this in time to my understanding is to transfer money from
>> >>>>> either the
>> >>>>> > SR and/or SMAC account to pay this bill [because SR and SMAC also
>> >>>>> have
>> >>>>> > funds in Unify account, so its not external]. The amount
>> transferred
>> >>>>> could
>> >>>>> > be quickly returned after other collectives pay rent + from a
>> >>>>> donation that
>> >>>>> > was offered.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > The amount still needed to transfer temporarily from SR/SMAC would
>> >>>>> need to
>> >>>>> > total around $1800. Is this okay with collectives, especially SR
>> and
>> >>>>> SMAC?
>> >>>>> > It is very crucial we pay our mortgage payment, especially given
>> that
>> >>>>> > Mulberry is still deliberating whether or not to foreclose on us.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Paige
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 11:06 PM Paige P <pgeplan@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >> Jesse, our lawyer, has said "Once the foreclosure is filed,
>> >>>>> [Mulberry]
>> >>>>> >> won't be able to accept any further payments." I checked the mail
>> >>>>> and see
>> >>>>> >> no foreclosure letter, so I believe we still need to be paying
>> our
>> >>>>> mortgage
>> >>>>> >> payment for May sometime in the next couple days.
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> Our current balance in our checking account is $153 + $3200
>> pending
>> >>>>> SR and
>> >>>>> >> SMAC rent that was just sent this night.
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> The mortgage payment is $5,677.89. So we are short $2324.89...
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> I do not know what other bills are due or if we are waiting on
>> rent
>> >>>>> from
>> >>>>> >> other collectives.
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> Can collectives be prepared to prepay April if necessary?
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> Paige
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>
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