Awesome, I would love to hear more about your japanese notecard approach.
I'm an unabashed Obsidian + Anki user - and I think there are tools/scripts/plugings that can resurface content "just in time" -- but there is a danger of throwing everything in a digital file never to be seen again.
How about a show and tell of current systems, would you be able to do a recording at Sudoroom and I will set one up at THS? For me it will have to be next month.
Some other questions:
- how do you begin to know what you don't know? How to create a syllabus for a new domain of knowledge - what is too deep and what is too shallow - mind mapping, skill trees etc
- how to organize analog notes - how to do "analog search"
- gamifying learning so that you actually want to review the things you studied
- project based learning - how can you learn something new through a project, but not get frustrated that you don't know the thing you are trying to learn through the project...
- sharing list of resources, hackerspace wikis etc
Spencer this is awesome!
Let's connect SudoRoom with Tokyo Hackerspace and beyond!
On a side note I found that my study has become much more effective after picking up some paper flashcards and Japanese style study notes in analog.
interested in this topic and have been thinking about it a lot recently
with the new copilot tools.
>>> re: what do you do with analog notes
Yes I'm fascinated by this too. I find electronic notetaking much too ephemeral for true learning, it's also dangerous to pack all your knowledge in the same device that has your social media, LinkedIn, etc.
I am experimenting with locking my iPad, having two tablets. There are settings where you can remove social media etc. as well.
I use Goodnotes and Notion heavily, I know people use Obsidian. How do we use these systems effectively? I'm starting to believe that it's harmful to rely entirely on ebooks and electronics though.
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1. Re: test of sending (Charley Sheets)
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3. Re: Need funds for May Mulberry mortgage payment
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Date: Mon, 06 May 2024 19:42:23 +0000
From: Charley Sheets <sudo@rcsheets.com>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: test of sending
To: Ira Brightman <ira997@gmail.com>
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Seems successful to me.
Sent from [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) for iOS
On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 12:39 PM, Ira Brightman via sudo-discuss <[sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org](mailto:On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 12:39 PM, Ira Brightman via sudo-discuss <<a href=)> wrote:
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 16:46:44 -0400
From: s maroukis <smaroukis@gmail.com>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: Learning how to learn / hacking learning
and note taking subgroup at SudoRoom
To: Romy Ilano <romy@snowyla.com>
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Hi, chiming in from Tokyo here https://www.tokyohackerspace.jp/ , I'm very
interested in this topic and have been thinking about it a lot recently
with the new copilot tools.
I was looking to set up a similar meeting at Tokyo Hackerspace, although I
think I'm more interested in using digital tools to point to gaps in
knowledge (which would require a digital knowledgebase / PKM to scan) than
a focus on why analog tools are useful. I definitely agree with the
benefits of handwriting notes especially for drawing diagrams/etc while
learning, but what do you do once you've taken all the handwritten notes?
You need to process them still - I think digital tools are great for that.
Would love to talk more and see what topics come up at sudo.
If people show interest I'd love to join a group chat/ discussion thread on
it and maybe I can host one in Tokyo with sudo's discussions as fodder.
Spencer
https://maroukis.net
On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 1:46 PM Romy Ilano via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:
> Speaking to folks at Noisebridge, but I'm thinking of starting a learning
> how to learn subgroup at SudoRoom.
>
> This would include topics such as:
> - Switching back to analog for notetaking and learning
> - Mixing analog notes and ebooks
> - doing digital detox on your laptops and phones and tablets so that they
> become learning devices instead of consumption devices
> - Creating a picture of new technologies like AI which seem to be
> constantly changing
>
> I'm not sure what a good time to meet for this would be... I'm guessing
> Tuesday? I am not sure I can come in this week though! I have job
> interviews. But I think cross meeting between SudoRoom, Noisebridge and
> other spaces is ideal!
>
>
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> Romy Ilano
> romy@snowyla.com
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 16:27:33 -0700
From: Omni Commons Bookkeeper <omnicommonsfinances@gmail.com>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: Need funds for May Mulberry mortgage
payment
To: Paige P <pgeplan@gmail.com>
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The MT payment has been posted
[image: Screenshot 2024-05-06 162654.png]
M
On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 10:02 PM Paige P <pgeplan@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, thanks for response and checking tomorrow
>
> Paige
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2024, 9:22 PM Omni Commons Bookkeeper <
> omnicommonsfinances@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I believe it’s still pending because it’s the weekend and not a business
>> day. The settlement date indicates 5/6/2024, so it should clear tomorrow.
>> I’ll check unify tomorrow to make sure.
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 7:56 PM Paige P <pgeplan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi again M and others,
>>>
>>> I see the payment (made on May 2) is listed as "Pending."
>>>
>>> Is this something we should be concerned about on our end? Or is it
>>> likely that this is pending on Mulberry's side (which would also be
>>> something to be concerned about on our end)?
>>> [image: Screenshot 2024-05-05 at 12-48-19 UNIFY Financial Credit Union
>>> Account Details.png]
>>> If unknown I was thinking of calling Unify tomorrow,
>>>
>>> Paige
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 4:39 PM Omni Commons Bookkeeper <
>>> omnicommonsfinances@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Update (just met w/ Paige and Silver): We transferred $3,100 from
>>>> Sudoroom to Omni - $2k advancement for June's rent and $1,100 advancement
>>>> to cover MT mortgage. Just processed the MT payment for May so we should be
>>>> good now.
>>>>
>>>> M
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 2:41 PM Jake <jake@spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I believe that sudoroom discussed this at a meeting a few weeks ago,
>>>>> and
>>>>> agreed that prepaying a month of rent in this situation would be
>>>>> acceptable.
>>>>>
>>>>> -jake
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 2 May 2024, Paige P via sudo-discuss wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Can collectives be prepared to prepay April *June *if necessary?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Given the time it takes for external transfers to come in, the only
>>>>> way to
>>>>> > pay this in time to my understanding is to transfer money from
>>>>> either the
>>>>> > SR and/or SMAC account to pay this bill [because SR and SMAC also
>>>>> have
>>>>> > funds in Unify account, so its not external]. The amount transferred
>>>>> could
>>>>> > be quickly returned after other collectives pay rent + from a
>>>>> donation that
>>>>> > was offered.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The amount still needed to transfer temporarily from SR/SMAC would
>>>>> need to
>>>>> > total around $1800. Is this okay with collectives, especially SR and
>>>>> SMAC?
>>>>> > It is very crucial we pay our mortgage payment, especially given that
>>>>> > Mulberry is still deliberating whether or not to foreclose on us.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Paige
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 11:06 PM Paige P <pgeplan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Jesse, our lawyer, has said "Once the foreclosure is filed,
>>>>> [Mulberry]
>>>>> >> won't be able to accept any further payments." I checked the mail
>>>>> and see
>>>>> >> no foreclosure letter, so I believe we still need to be paying our
>>>>> mortgage
>>>>> >> payment for May sometime in the next couple days.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Our current balance in our checking account is $153 + $3200 pending
>>>>> SR and
>>>>> >> SMAC rent that was just sent this night.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The mortgage payment is $5,677.89. So we are short $2324.89...
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I do not know what other bills are due or if we are waiting on rent
>>>>> from
>>>>> >> other collectives.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Can collectives be prepared to prepay April if necessary?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Paige
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
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