I see plenty of consensus here.

1) We all recognize that there is an excess of materials that need to be moved out.
2) We all recognize that the current donation policy isn't selective enough to prevent clutter accumulation.
3) All solutions will require some amount of human labor, and the amount of human labor available will influence what solutions are feasible.

First, I propose we start by placing a hold on new donations until we have a better handle on the situation.

Second: let's make this a real-time discussion. Can we talk about this on Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday at 8:30 PM? I think we should continue discussing over email, but I think a live meeting would help us plan how to get control of the current level of clutter and revise the donation policy to rectify the issue going forward.

Also, I really appreciate all the effort so many of you have been putting in. Jake, Yar, Jenny, and Joule, you've each clearly done a lot on this issue and I want to thank you for that.

Andrew R Gross, (he/him)
412.657.5332    -   shrad.org


On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 12:19 PM Yardena Cohen via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:
On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 12:24 AM Jake via sudo-discuss
<sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:
> the real issue is that we've faced a lack of human resources to curate the space.
> A lack of contributing effort.
> it requires human labor
> come and get involved, spend time understanding what we have and why, and make an impact

Jake! Please hear yourself and think about what you're saying! "Come
join Sudoroom so we can set you to work cleaning up after a bunch of
manchildren" is a doomed sales pitch. Why would anybody take that
job??? This is magical thinking of the worst kind. It makes me sorry
that I ever washed a single dish back when we had a kitchen sink that
anybody wanted to use. The problem is an entrenched culture that seems
to require constant invisible labor from magic pixie unicorns, not the
lack of said unicorns. Good fucking lord.
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