Not a bad idea re FRP, patrik. That would also make trash room walls cleanable, which would be nice.The trash room has a really high fire load - so much cardboard etc, & features the exposed underside of an unrated wooden stair, interior-facing wooden siding, etc.Therefore, this room could also really use some DW under the stair, and also I think that ceiling + wall areas in this room which are not finished in FRP should ideally have 2 coats of our intumescent paint, which we still have a lot of.. (There’s a special application for intumescent paint - the layers / mils must be pretty exact - but it ain’t rocket science).The combination of the above would lead to not only a more rat-proof, but a more cleanable and fire-safe trash room as well.(Ps. Sarah, btw - FRP = fiberglass reinforced panels, not paint)Best,DavidOn Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 17:04 Sarah Lockhart <sarah.ee.el@gmail.com> wrote:I believe that paint is with the other paint in the basement. In case someone wants to do a Malevich tributeSLOn Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 4:42 PM Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd@gmail.com> wrote:(Copying the building list on this as well)We may want to consider covering the walls of the trash room in FRP, especially since our lab space is right on the other side of the back wall...PatrikOn Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 3:37 PM David Keenan via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:We also need to rat-proof the trash room from the disco room’s ground floor stair landing side.On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 12:15 Jenny Ryan via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:Thanks, Sarah!! (and lol re: rodent-inclusivity..)
Adding the list back to this earlier reply I sent re: traps:
I bought 4-5 nice electric traps back in 2019 (much more humane to kill via electrocution than snaptraps). They take C (or maybe D?) batteries. I bought rechargeable batteries for them, as well as a battery charger that accommodates all types of rechargeable batteries.
^ these electric traps are the Rat Zappers in boxes that Sarah mentioned. Unsure about status of rechargeable batteries and battery charger.
On 2/23/22 11:57, Sarah Lockhart via sudo-discuss wrote:
Just FYI -- I just ordered the hardware cloth to rat-proof under the stage of the ballroom. There should be some left over that can be put in omni's toolroom and used for various sites where we need to more emphatically demonstrate that we are not a rodent-inclusive building
On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 9:59 AM Ian C <icumming2020@yahoo.com> wrote:
"think that it would be really nice to have the space clean and organized andinviting, and the way we will do that is by people coming into the space and
cleaning and organizing it. There is no substitute for that, and people who
think that turning away donations (which have supplied literally everything in
sudoroom) are mistaken, and their suggestions harm us and don't help anything."
Jake, David, and Sarah:
Two nights ago, as I was leaving, I saw a large rat, run down the hall past the restroom,
towards the front room.
Last night I saw the same rat run from the beige couch in the entrance hall,
to the far side of the building, and as I was leaving, the rat ran from
the far side of the building towards the Beige couch.
You have rats and food.
Two nights in a row.
You can have a professional exterminator come and remove it,
or you can wait until the health department closes all food operations down.
If you want to ever have a commercial kitchen, ( Which I have worked in)
you need to handle pests professionally. ( Which my former roommate worked for Clarke ).
Or any time you ask for a permit, the health department will ask to
see your extermination bills and records, which makes some commercial kitchens,
not viable, and they either have to shut down, or they never get started.
The Town fridge needs a clean up in front of the building.
There is food spread all over,
THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
Remember the neighbors who complained about the front steps?
Also, another toaster was removed,
I will be emptying SuDo Rooms trash tonight.
So, Jake is out of town, and these problems,
and gone from a concern, to urgent, to Emergency.
This is what happens when you ignore problems,
If a rat bites someone,
( because it is now living in the front entrance hall)
Do you understand the consequences of not doing anything?
There are currently places that I can point out where rats are moving into the walls.
The hole I saw has enlarged since last night.
Here are some suggestions:
Have David, put out as many commercial traps, and get some exclusion material.
Install today, not tomorrow, or the next day:
When Sudo room had a mice problem, that I noticed,
I put traps out that day.
When Counter Culture Labs had a mouse,
they put out traps immediately.
AVN keeps all food off the floor.
They are meticulous about it.
Here is the alternative:
You really never want a kitchen,
and you want the fate of the Redstone building in San Francisco to repeat:
"San Francisco's Redstone Building sells below..."
( reduced from $22M to $7M. a 69% Devaluation. )
Most probably because of unabated pests.
Could the OMNI survive a 69% devaluation?
"Nov 19, 2021 — Despite years of advocacy
to keep the historic Redstone Building in community hands,
the building has been sold to a real estate company"
When you are flying a 747, another 747 flying at you,
looks like a tiny dot, until It gets really big, and then you are dead.
On Saturday, February 19, 2022, 03:19:34 PM PST, Jake via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022, Alexander Papazoglou wrote:
> I don't have any concrete suggestions other than finding a way to make
> stuff transit though sudoroom in a more orderly fashion. Like with planned
> events, maybe in concert with other hackerspaces. But I'm probably just
> echoing Joule's sentiments there.
I listed concrete suggestions: I said "come and get involved, spend time
understanding what we have and why, and make an impact."
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