Just to clarify, TANC is Tenants and Neighborhoods Councils. They're a local tenants union who helps organize renters to form unions in and between apartment buildings to challenge rent increase or otherwise push back against property managers. I reached out to them last year when I was looking for advice in dealing with bad behavior by my property manager, and attended one of their meetings. I support their work.  https://baytanc.com

CLP is Community Liberation Programs: https://www.communityliberationprograms.org/. I don't know much about them, honestly. They organize programs around diverse socialist goals, which sounds like something I'd completely support, but I think it's misguided to block TANC from joining Omni, particularly on the charge that they're not outspoken enough about Palestine. I don't think they've provided any evidence for the claim, and it's also creating a lot of conflict within Omni that seems super unproductive.

Especially because Omni is facing foreclosure at the end of the year if we don't find a new lender. We need a strong financial base of support from member collectives in order to convince a credit union to loan us money to avoid losing the building. I don't want to pick a fight with CLP, but the consensus process is meant to encourage discussion and persuasion, and blocks are supposed to be used for matters of urgent necessity. Filibustering a new collective's joining or using a block because you haven't been successful persuading others is not a good-faith use of the consensus process, imo. Which is why I think Sudo should endorse a proposal to use the consensus-minus-one clause to proceed with inducting TANC into Omni.

Does anyone disagree? If so, can you please offer a counter proposal to resolve this dispute. If there is no block on the motion, then I believe whoever represents Sudo at the next Thursday Omni meeting will register our collective as being in support of the motion to disregard CLP's block on TANC joining.

-Andy



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On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 8:44 PM Karissa McKelvey <krmckelv@gmail.com> wrote:
There are a lot of acronyms here I have no idea what's going on. but this is exactly why consensus-1 exists

On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:56 PM Z Silver Zahn via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:
I really thinks it’s inappropriate to ask an organization that Omni dosent have that much of a relationship to spend their energy looking into who TANC is , what omni decision making model is etc. I hope CLP steps up to these demands they imposed on PYM . 
On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:29 PM Andrew R Gross via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:
I strongly, strongly endorse Yar’s proposal, and while I’m trying to take a break from Omni politics, I would be willing to make an exception if there’s anything I can do to help break this impasse.

I am neutral on ejecting or suspending CLP. I’m happy to try and resolve things with them if they’re willing, but I wouldn’t mind seeing them go if they continue to demonstrate a lack of consideration for the consensus process. Tanc’s approval has taken far too long, imo. 

It’s frankly shitty to spend so much time denigrating and occupying the limited resources of a group that helps renters stay in their homes.

Andy

On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:20 PM Muirén Ní Sídach via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:
I get the picture.
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