You participated in an attempted purge of me, and are openly attacking our delegate in an attempt to force the issue, instead of bringing such a decision to the collective.

You clearly have a specific goal in these issues, and I don't see how I could trust you to facilitate topics that are so important to you, and if you're going to be neutral then it shouldn't matter if someone else does it instead.  Less work for you.

-jake


On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 6:25 PM Jemma Love <codejems@gmail.com> wrote:
Jake, I have facilitated meetings previously where people disagreed with me with no cause for concern and all were heard equally. Everyone, including you, thanked me for facilitating that meeting.

There is no factual reason as to why that would change for this meeting. If you really want to make facilitation an issue within sudoroom and continue to exhaust limited meeting time then I suggest you raise it at the meeting.

All the best,
Jems

On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 6:18 PM Jake Watters via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:
No, I think we need a neutral facilitator or as close as we can find to that.

As for how long the meeting will go on, the request is noted, but people can't just object to us having a meeting.  We can table discussions if necessary, but the unprecedented discord that has come up recently can only be dealt with by a well-attended meeting by the membership.

The obvious discussions are:
1. "the ED decision" of whether we will hand over executive power to Jamal, and
2.  who will be our delegate tomorrow at the Omni meeting.

-jake

On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 5:59 PM Paige P via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:
Ok Jemma has volunteered to facilitate.

Also there was another request that we end at 8PM, so I'll ask again, please be ready to start at 7PM!


On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 1:53 AM Paige P <pgeplan@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone, please try and show up close to on time! So we dont waste so much time sitting around.

Would be great if we could get a volunteer for facilitator and agenda but I am not able to make that today. Two obvious discussions are ED position and how to move past recent conflicts.

Paige
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On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 6:25 PM Jemma Love <codejems@gmail.com> wrote:
Jake, I have facilitated meetings previously where people disagreed with me with no cause for concern and all were heard equally. Everyone, including you, thanked me for facilitating that meeting.

There is no factual reason as to why that would change for this meeting. If you really want to make facilitation an issue within sudoroom and continue to exhaust limited meeting time then I suggest you raise it at the meeting.

All the best,
Jems

On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 6:18 PM Jake Watters via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:
No, I think we need a neutral facilitator or as close as we can find to that.

As for how long the meeting will go on, the request is noted, but people can't just object to us having a meeting.  We can table discussions if necessary, but the unprecedented discord that has come up recently can only be dealt with by a well-attended meeting by the membership.

The obvious discussions are:
1. "the ED decision" of whether we will hand over executive power to Jamal, and
2.  who will be our delegate tomorrow at the Omni meeting.

-jake

On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 5:59 PM Paige P via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org> wrote:
Ok Jemma has volunteered to facilitate.

Also there was another request that we end at 8PM, so I'll ask again, please be ready to start at 7PM!


On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 1:53 AM Paige P <pgeplan@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone, please try and show up close to on time! So we dont waste so much time sitting around.

Would be great if we could get a volunteer for facilitator and agenda but I am not able to make that today. Two obvious discussions are ED position and how to move past recent conflicts.

Paige
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