Was this meeting scheduled?
// Matt
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM, mattsenate(a)gmail.com
<mattsenate(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> Friday works.
>
> // Matt
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv>
> To: "mattsenate(a)gmail.com" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com>, <sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, <
> hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: [sudospaces] Sudo Hall
> Date:…
[View More] Tue, Dec 3, 2013 13:42
>
>
> I can't do Thursday. Unless it's morning.
> Fri. OK.
> We can also schedule a particular time in the evening, though he doesn't
> stick around too late.
>
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:36 PM, "mattsenate(a)gmail.com" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> How about Thursday?
>
> // Matt
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv>
> To: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com>
> Cc: "sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, "
> hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: [sudospaces] Sudo Hall
> Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 13:10
>
>
> update --
> George said he was available to meet in the late afternoon any day this
> week to talk about possibilities for rental/purchase/co-op for the whole
> Sudo wing of the building.
> I wanted to know if anyone else was interested in joining this
> conversation.
> Wednesday would be most convenient for me.
>
> --
> In regards to the use of hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org - here are some
> preliminary ideas I had:
> Increase transparency.
> It would be useful to get some ideas kicked around about how to possibly
> structure this and see what Sudo Hall can try and bargain for in terms of
> gradual increase in rent and other innovative incentives such as those
> PopUp Oakland have been negotiating for on behalf of their community
> partners.
> Get a reasonable sense of timelines and flesh out what is involved in more
> complicated arrangements - such as the equity sale to institutional
> (groups) membership as a cooperative corporation.
>
>
> On Dec 2, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Eddan, I've subscribed to sudohall.
>
> I think it is nice to have a more serious list - the discussions on
> sudoDiscuss are not so action-oriented.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, eddan.com <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> wrote:
>
>> Dear Sudo folk.
>>
>> Our landlords have expressed their frustration that our current use of
>> the common area has deterred their ability to rent out the other units in
>> the Sudo wing of 2141 Broadway.
>>
>> Apparently, Robert Wenzel - the other tenant (other than the Bay Area
>> Public School), who preceded all of our occupancy of the space at 2141
>> Broadway, has moved his office in frustration over the common area, in
>> particular as a result of people consistently sleeping there.
>>
>> The use of the common area as space being sub-leased to groups
>> unconnected with the current tenants has also been a cause of
>> miscommunication over our current lease. While our landlords are in full
>> support of our making it a popular community space, our current practices
>> have diverged from their hopes of how they want the space to be used.
>>
>> For those who are interested in exploring possibilities for
>> renting/buying/creating a coop at the current location, a listserv has been
>> created to facilitate the development of such a plan under the interim
>> codename Sudo Hall. Please feel free to sign up at:
>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/hall
>>
>> The objective of this forum is to complement the research and discussion
>> that has been ongoing regarding spaces suitable for Sudo Room activities
>> and of interest to the Sudo Room constellation of communities. The
>> sudospaces list can continue to be (or begin to be, more accurately) the
>> appropriate venue for sharing such information and enabling coordination to
>> take advantage of the opportunities that come up.
>>
>> Given our lease renewal deadline of the end of the year, I imagine that
>> the new Sudo Hall list can reduce the overlapping confusion of coalescing
>> like-minded groups for shared and common purposes; and the exploration of
>> physical spaces where this collective of collectives finds its home(s).
>>
>> Amongst the communities I am personally most interested in reaching in
>> the immediate term are those who could make best use of the
>> dance/yoga/pilates studio space with the wooden floor in between Sudo Room
>> and the Bay Area Public School.
>>
>> It is my hope that the prudent use of these two lists for their
>> complementary purposes can minimize friction between competing interests
>> and ideas and rather serve to enable cooperative planning in a transparent
>> way while not interfering with all the projects that are ongoing. The
>> general community can be updated (through sudo-discuss) at critical
>> junctures in the evolution of developing plans.
>>
>>
>>
>> sent from eddan.com
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>> sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudospaces
>>
>
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Friday works.
// Matt
----- Reply message -----
From: "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv>
To: "mattsenate(a)gmail.com" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>
Cc: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com>, <sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, <hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: [sudospaces] Sudo Hall
Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 13:42
I can't do Thursday. Unless it's morning.Fri. OK. We can also schedule a particular time in the evening, though he doesn't stick around too late.
On Dec 3, 2013,…
[View More] at 1:36 PM, "mattsenate(a)gmail.com" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote:How about Thursday?
// Matt
----- Reply message -----
From: "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv>
To: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com>
Cc: "sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, "hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: [sudospaces] Sudo Hall
Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 13:10
update --George said he was available to meet in the late afternoon any day this week to talk about possibilities for rental/purchase/co-op for the whole Sudo wing of the building.I wanted to know if anyone else was interested in joining this conversation.Wednesday would be most convenient for me.
--In regards to the use of hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org - here are some preliminary ideas I had:Increase transparency.It would be useful to get some ideas kicked around about how to possibly structure this and see what Sudo Hall can try and bargain for in terms of gradual increase in rent and other innovative incentives such as those PopUp Oakland have been negotiating for on behalf of their community partners. Get a reasonable sense of timelines and flesh out what is involved in more complicated arrangements - such as the equity sale to institutional (groups) membership as a cooperative corporation.
On Dec 2, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:Thanks Eddan, I've subscribed to sudohall.
I think it is nice to have a more serious list - the discussions on sudoDiscuss are not so action-oriented.
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, eddan.com <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> wrote:
Dear Sudo folk.
Our landlords have expressed their frustration that our current use of the common area has deterred their ability to rent out the other units in the Sudo wing of 2141 Broadway.
Apparently, Robert Wenzel - the other tenant (other than the Bay Area Public School), who preceded all of our occupancy of the space at 2141 Broadway, has moved his office in frustration over the common area, in particular as a result of people consistently sleeping there.
The use of the common area as space being sub-leased to groups unconnected with the current tenants has also been a cause of miscommunication over our current lease. While our landlords are in full support of our making it a popular community space, our current practices have diverged from their hopes of how they want the space to be used.
For those who are interested in exploring possibilities for renting/buying/creating a coop at the current location, a listserv has been created to facilitate the development of such a plan under the interim codename Sudo Hall. Please feel free to sign up at: http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/hall
The objective of this forum is to complement the research and discussion that has been ongoing regarding spaces suitable for Sudo Room activities and of interest to the Sudo Room constellation of communities. The sudospaces list can continue to be (or begin to be, more accurately) the appropriate venue for sharing such information and enabling coordination to take advantage of the opportunities that come up.
Given our lease renewal deadline of the end of the year, I imagine that the new Sudo Hall list can reduce the overlapping confusion of coalescing like-minded groups for shared and common purposes; and the exploration of physical spaces where this collective of collectives finds its home(s).
Amongst the communities I am personally most interested in reaching in the immediate term are those who could make best use of the dance/yoga/pilates studio space with the wooden floor in between Sudo Room and the Bay Area Public School.
It is my hope that the prudent use of these two lists for their complementary purposes can minimize friction between competing interests and ideas and rather serve to enable cooperative planning in a transparent way while not interfering with all the projects that are ongoing. The general community can be updated (through sudo-discuss) at critical junctures in the evolution of developing plans.
sent from eddan.com
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How about Thursday?
// Matt
----- Reply message -----
From: "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv>
To: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com>
Cc: "sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, "hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: [sudospaces] Sudo Hall
Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 13:10
update --George said he was available to meet in the late afternoon any day this week to talk about possibilities for rental/purchase/co-op for the …
[View More]whole Sudo wing of the building.I wanted to know if anyone else was interested in joining this conversation.Wednesday would be most convenient for me.
--In regards to the use of hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org - here are some preliminary ideas I had:Increase transparency.It would be useful to get some ideas kicked around about how to possibly structure this and see what Sudo Hall can try and bargain for in terms of gradual increase in rent and other innovative incentives such as those PopUp Oakland have been negotiating for on behalf of their community partners. Get a reasonable sense of timelines and flesh out what is involved in more complicated arrangements - such as the equity sale to institutional (groups) membership as a cooperative corporation.
On Dec 2, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:Thanks Eddan, I've subscribed to sudohall.
I think it is nice to have a more serious list - the discussions on sudoDiscuss are not so action-oriented.
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, eddan.com <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> wrote:
Dear Sudo folk.
Our landlords have expressed their frustration that our current use of the common area has deterred their ability to rent out the other units in the Sudo wing of 2141 Broadway.
Apparently, Robert Wenzel - the other tenant (other than the Bay Area Public School), who preceded all of our occupancy of the space at 2141 Broadway, has moved his office in frustration over the common area, in particular as a result of people consistently sleeping there.
The use of the common area as space being sub-leased to groups unconnected with the current tenants has also been a cause of miscommunication over our current lease. While our landlords are in full support of our making it a popular community space, our current practices have diverged from their hopes of how they want the space to be used.
For those who are interested in exploring possibilities for renting/buying/creating a coop at the current location, a listserv has been created to facilitate the development of such a plan under the interim codename Sudo Hall. Please feel free to sign up at: http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/hall
The objective of this forum is to complement the research and discussion that has been ongoing regarding spaces suitable for Sudo Room activities and of interest to the Sudo Room constellation of communities. The sudospaces list can continue to be (or begin to be, more accurately) the appropriate venue for sharing such information and enabling coordination to take advantage of the opportunities that come up.
Given our lease renewal deadline of the end of the year, I imagine that the new Sudo Hall list can reduce the overlapping confusion of coalescing like-minded groups for shared and common purposes; and the exploration of physical spaces where this collective of collectives finds its home(s).
Amongst the communities I am personally most interested in reaching in the immediate term are those who could make best use of the dance/yoga/pilates studio space with the wooden floor in between Sudo Room and the Bay Area Public School.
It is my hope that the prudent use of these two lists for their complementary purposes can minimize friction between competing interests and ideas and rather serve to enable cooperative planning in a transparent way while not interfering with all the projects that are ongoing. The general community can be updated (through sudo-discuss) at critical junctures in the evolution of developing plans.
sent from eddan.com
_______________________________________________
sudospaces mailing list
sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudospaces
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Dear Sudo folk.
Our landlords have expressed their frustration that our current use of the common area has deterred their ability to rent out the other units in the Sudo wing of 2141 Broadway.
Apparently, Robert Wenzel - the other tenant (other than the Bay Area Public School), who preceded all of our occupancy of the space at 2141 Broadway, has moved his office in frustration over the common area, in particular as a result of people consistently sleeping there.
The use of the common area as …
[View More]space being sub-leased to groups unconnected with the current tenants has also been a cause of miscommunication over our current lease. While our landlords are in full support of our making it a popular community space, our current practices have diverged from their hopes of how they want the space to be used.
For those who are interested in exploring possibilities for renting/buying/creating a coop at the current location, a listserv has been created to facilitate the development of such a plan under the interim codename Sudo Hall. Please feel free to sign up at: http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/hall
The objective of this forum is to complement the research and discussion that has been ongoing regarding spaces suitable for Sudo Room activities and of interest to the Sudo Room constellation of communities. The sudospaces list can continue to be (or begin to be, more accurately) the appropriate venue for sharing such information and enabling coordination to take advantage of the opportunities that come up.
Given our lease renewal deadline of the end of the year, I imagine that the new Sudo Hall list can reduce the overlapping confusion of coalescing like-minded groups for shared and common purposes; and the exploration of physical spaces where this collective of collectives finds its home(s).
Amongst the communities I am personally most interested in reaching in the immediate term are those who could make best use of the dance/yoga/pilates studio space with the wooden floor in between Sudo Room and the Bay Area Public School.
It is my hope that the prudent use of these two lists for their complementary purposes can minimize friction between competing interests and ideas and rather serve to enable cooperative planning in a transparent way while not interfering with all the projects that are ongoing. The general community can be updated (through sudo-discuss) at critical junctures in the evolution of developing plans.
sent from eddan.com
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