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* It is ok to not work in children's education
* It is ok to not work in children's education
* It is ok not to do stuff for the benefit of charity
* It is ok not to do stuff for the benefit of charity
* It is ok to like stuff that is traditionally what men do




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https://github.com/sudoroom
https://github.com/sudoroom


Most of the projects are started by men, and I've seen many promising women diverted over the years to projects like charity and children's education.
Most of the projects at all the hackerspaces started by men, and I've seen many promising women diverted over the years to projects like charity and children's education. I see a general trend of women doing stuff that is mostly not fun and focused mostly on educating kids, while men get to work in education at a university level. It is also quite rare to see women doing creative art or music on their own at hackerspaces, they tend to take the "den mother" role, run meetups and throw benefits for non profits. It's also generally more common to see women tagging along as girlfriends of hackers rather than women coming of their own volition to hackerspaces - it must be a cultural thing, not sure why that is!
 
Any women focused groups do not really try to get women creating at only a very basic level (3 or 4 intro to javascript classes and then of course "learn how to do job interviews so you can get a jobs") and then they are funneled off into doing stuff for charity or non profits and running endless pointless meetups instead of a actually doing great work. Any deep intellectual work is viewed as selfish for women and instead they should go on pointless diversity committees and run charity events and run social media accounts.


It's pretty disappointing and a '''huge''' waste of potential.
It's pretty disappointing and a '''huge''' waste of potential.


=== Inspiring Women ===
=== Inspiring Women ===
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here's a nice list of inspiring women in tech who smart, tackling meaty topics and working on projects that aren't about educating children or becoming a tech influencer or doing some kind of non profit work (''those are ok too but it gets hard for me to tell all of those people apart or )''.  
here's a nice list of inspiring women in tech who smart, tackling meaty topics and working on projects that aren't about educating children or becoming a tech influencer or doing some kind of non profit work (''those are ok too but it gets hard for me to tell all of those people apart or )''.  


It's a nice change of pace and I hope we can add people from SudoRoom to this list!  
It's a nice change of pace and I hope we can add people from SudoRoom to this list! There was K who did the AR glasses startup who was hacking here for a bunch of years and she had nothing whatsoever to do with any diversity or women's groups, charity or children's education. Instead she just focused on learning hardware and didn't tag along as someone's girlfriend and if we can encourage that sort of behavior more then that would be cool.
 
Maybe we can start getting a pattern of women just coming alone to hackerspaces, working only on projects, not running diversity related meetups and doing complex technical work.


* https://blog.jessfraz.com
* https://blog.jessfraz.com
* Julia's programming zines https://wizardzines.com
* Julia's programming zines https://wizardzines.com
I don't know how to solve these problems but putting smart people on diversity committees and doing weekend fundraisers for children's education is definitely not going to be it and maybe those are what keep smart women from accomplishing anything meaningful to society!
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