[sudo-access] door to sudoroom/ccl

Jake jake at spaz.org
Mon Jan 16 00:53:48 PST 2017

i think the entrance to sudo/ccl should have a door before we bother putting a
card reader.

the door that had been there was removed, because it swung inwards, which is
unacceptable for an emergency exit.  The door needs to be re-installed with the
hinges swinging outward, so that in case an emergency happens in sudo/ccl
people can just flood outward.

after the door is installed that way, with a panic bar (not a regular doorknob)
we can install a card reader.


On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, Maureen Muldavin wrote:

> If you are working on RFID cards any possibility that the entrance to
> sudo/ccl could get a card reader? Been wanting access control for
> awhile.
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>> i brought in a wheelchair motor a while ago that I think could be made into
>> a
>> power door-opener pretty well.
>> I can work on a proof-of-concept for that and then be able to show you what
>> I
>> mean, and then we can see if it will be good enough for our needs as opposed
>> to
>> spending $2800 on a "proper" door opener.
>> as for the RFID cards, Alex and I have been working on implementing the card
>> reader thing for a little while and I think I can add it to the front door
>> pretty relatively easily.., and I guess i'll do that first, rather than
>> trying
>> to do a storage closet first?
>> as always, if anyone wants to participate in this process they should
>> definitely jump in, otherwise it's subject to my chaotic schedule.
>> technical questions about making this happen should be sent to the access
>> list
>> and possibly the sudoroom list, but probably not the building list as it
>> will
>> be a major distraction if we get into the weeds of microcontroller boards
>> and
>> door server code...
>> also, yes I do have the box of RFID stuff you ordered and i've been working
>> on
>> it~
>> -jake
>> On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, David Keenan wrote:
>>> Hi Jake / access control folks -
>>> So now that our front door is publicly labelled as accessible, we need to
>>> install an automatic door opener & remote button (kickplate & hand-height
>>> or a long bar) to make it legal.
>>> Reason I bring this up to you guys is, the opener system will need to
>>> integrate into our existing/future access control somehow. The quote I got
>>> is $2800 (50% parts, 50% labor) for a package including the Open Sesame
>>> Model 233 (brochure
>>> <http://www.opensesamedoor.com/index_htm_files/open_sesame_brochure.pdf>,
>>> spec
>>> sheet <http://www.opensesamedoor.com/index_htm_files/specs_model233.pdf>),
>>> made in San Leandro.
>>> Also, some of us met last week re: sketching out Omni's accessibility
>>> plan,
>>> and Yar suggested this might be a good time to also implement RFID system
>>> for the front door, if that was possible? In part because, proximity to an
>>> RFID fob is more accessible than a card swipe which (after thinking about
>>> it) I realized requires a pincing motion that is likely not ADA... because
>>> of the excessive door opening pressure and iffy slope on the front
>>> landing,
>>> we need an RFID & auto-opener.
>>> So -- I'm not sure if any more work has been done on the RFID systems I
>>> put
>>> in sudo a little while ago (stashed in under-stair storage area), might it
>>> be possible to integrate these into the door opener? I note in the
>>> brochure
>>> they offer a keypad access option - perhaps an opportunity for 2-factor
>>> authentication like Marc had talked about? Anyhow what do you guys think?
>>> I apologize for not helping y'all more with a better access control system
>>> (helping spaces post-ghostship consumed my bandwidth), but as there is now
>>> renewed pressure I want to help as I can. Would installing a trial
>>> RFID/throw on the Omni Office for example still be helpful towards getting
>>> this nailed down? Lmk
>>> Fwiw - I see the opener as pressing at this point not just 'cause its long
>>> overdue, but because every day our front door is labelled as accessible
>>> when it's technically not, is actually a not-insignificant liability issue
>>> (accessibility lawsuit). Plus of course, we are still under scrutiny by
>>> the
>>> city, nimby neighbors trying to call us out for bogus reasons, etc etc.
>>> And
>>> per building code the front door must be made fully accessible before any
>>> other accessibility work starts on the rest of the building - at some
>>> point
>>> an inspector's gonna notice since they all go through that door..anyhow.
>>> Let me know how myself & those of us working on accessibility might be
>>> able
>>> to help -
>>> Best,
>>> David

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