[Mesh] coop ISP

Thu Feb 13 12:27:31 PST 2014

If others want to spend some time tonight talking through what a
cooperatively owned ISP could look like, I'd love to be a part of that
discussion. Some folks from Mondragon's University just held an event on
cooperatives on Tuesday in SF and I talked with Ricardo from SELC a little
bit about IT cooperatives. If we try and get a picture of how a cooperative
might operate within and in partnership with the mesh tonight, I'd be happy
to stop by the SELC legal cafe next week and get answers on whatever
questions we come up with.

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:00 PM, <mesh-request at lists.sudoroom.org> wrote:

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> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 15:52:37 -0800
> From: Mitar <mitar at tnode.com>
> To: Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>
> Cc: "mesh at lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [Mesh] BSC $10,000 Development Grant
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> Hi!
>
> > Jeremy and I are applying to this grant for our food worker coop ;)
>
> Amazing!!! :-)
>
> (I am not sure what food worker coop is, but still amazing. :-) )
>
> > I think the more relevant applications, the better.
>
> Yes!!! Please, spread the word, apply. Personally, I really think that
> people should try to create more coops, it is a very good way for a
> social change.
>
> > On the other hand, I think it could work if a group of Berkeleyans wanted
> > to coordinate a group to start their own "mesh cooperative" since this
> > seems to be a vibe of many of the folks we've talked to in Berkeley,
> > students and other residents alike. Any such "mesh cooperative" could
> > participate in The People's Open Network and work in close coordination
> or
> > simple solidarity with Sudo Mesh.
>
> Yes!
>
> And they do not have to be from Berkeley. Grant are not targeted only to
> Berkeley area.
>
> Maybe also think about a coop which would build on top of mesh network.
> In guifi.net (Spanish community wireless network with 15k+ nodes) whole
> small companies already work inside the network, providing different
> services and so on. There are people who would like and are able to pay
> to become a member and they want also technical support. A coop could be
> that. Or maybe some service on top of it. Or it does not have to be mesh
> related, but still something which would integrate mesh at some point
> later on. Personally, I really like the idea of IT coops, so instead of
> startups, you create a coop. You do the same thing, only all workers own
> the company.
>
> One step further is also that you make all your customers own the
> company as well. So not only workers, but customers also become members
> and then you together determine prices. A friend of mine had an idea for
> a farming cooperative, where they would connect multiple small farms
> together to be able to fulfill big orders, but also customers would be
> members of this cooperative.
>
> Do not forget that there can be many different types of cooperatives,
> like housing, worker, and consumer coops.
>
> For an inspiration, the biggest cooperative, with 14 billion EUR in
> revenue and 80k employees. Check what all they do:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation
>
>
> Mitar
>
> > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Mitar <mitar at tnode.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I must say that filing for a coop status only to get this grant is a
> >> bit... The idea of this grant is to help people who really believe in
> >> cooperatives as means to a social change and need help with this. If you
> >> really want and believe in cooperatives and you want to be a
> >> cooperative, then this is a great opportunity.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mitar
> >>
> >>> Could we still file for coop status under the umbrella of SudoRoom?
> >>> On Feb 11, 2014 11:35 PM, "Mitar" <mitar at tnode.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi!
> >>>>
> >>>> Just a comment. This money is awarded if you want to create a coop as
> an
> >>>> entity/business. Not only if project is cooperative in spirit.
> >>>>
> >>>> But I do encourage you to apply if you have any coop idea. Friends of
> >>>> mine (they were at Mass effect) (Derek and Mikey) are for example
> >>>> creating an IT coop (where mesh is a part of their ideas). (If anybody
> >>>> has any contacts with other IT coops in the area, if they are any,
> >>>> please tell me to forward them.)
> >>>>
> >>>> So yes, this is a great opportunity. It is yearly. Spread the word
> >> around.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mitar
> >>>>
> >>>>> If anyone is interested in writing an application, the Berkeley
> Student
> >>>>> Cooperative has announced a $10,000 cooperative development grant for
> >>>>> cooperative projects that serve students or underserved members of
> >>>>> low-income communities within the SF Bay Area
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://sites.google.com/a/bsc.coop/eacom/co-op-development-fund
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Applications are due 11:59 pm, Sunday March 9th.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am still interested in starting an extension to the mesh in
> Berkeley
> >>>>> starting within the co-ops. This might be a nice way to get the
> central
> >>>>> management on board, too and bring a bit more funding for hefty
> >> backbone
> >>>>> equipment / more nodes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lemme know if you all have questions. Still have a PicoStation
> sitting
> >>>>> around waiting for mesh firmware to be loaded on!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nader
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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