[Mesh] coop ISP

Thu Feb 13 12:52:09 PST 2014

There's also an interesting talk from 30c3 on a federated ISP model...

http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2013/30C3_-_5391_-_en_-_saal_6_-_201312291130_-_y_u_no_isp_taking_back_the_net_-_taziden.html

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jacob Levin <jjflevin at gmail.com> wrote:

> If others want to spend some time tonight talking through what a
> cooperatively owned ISP could look like, I'd love to be a part of that
> discussion. Some folks from Mondragon's University just held an event on
> cooperatives on Tuesday in SF and I talked with Ricardo from SELC a little
> bit about IT cooperatives. If we try and get a picture of how a cooperative
> might operate within and in partnership with the mesh tonight, I'd be happy
> to stop by the SELC legal cafe next week and get answers on whatever
> questions we come up with.
>
>
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>>    1. Re: BSC $10,000 Development Grant (Mitar)
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>> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 15:52:37 -0800
>> From: Mitar <mitar at tnode.com>
>> To: Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "mesh at lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh at lists.sudoroom.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Mesh] BSC $10,000 Development Grant
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>> Hi!
>>
>> > Jeremy and I are applying to this grant for our food worker coop ;)
>>
>> Amazing!!! :-)
>>
>> (I am not sure what food worker coop is, but still amazing. :-) )
>>
>> > I think the more relevant applications, the better.
>>
>> Yes!!! Please, spread the word, apply. Personally, I really think that
>> people should try to create more coops, it is a very good way for a
>> social change.
>>
>> > On the other hand, I think it could work if a group of Berkeleyans
>> wanted
>> > to coordinate a group to start their own "mesh cooperative" since this
>> > seems to be a vibe of many of the folks we've talked to in Berkeley,
>> > students and other residents alike. Any such "mesh cooperative" could
>> > participate in The People's Open Network and work in close coordination
>> or
>> > simple solidarity with Sudo Mesh.
>>
>> Yes!
>>
>> And they do not have to be from Berkeley. Grant are not targeted only to
>> Berkeley area.
>>
>> Maybe also think about a coop which would build on top of mesh network.
>> In guifi.net (Spanish community wireless network with 15k+ nodes) whole
>> small companies already work inside the network, providing different
>> services and so on. There are people who would like and are able to pay
>> to become a member and they want also technical support. A coop could be
>> that. Or maybe some service on top of it. Or it does not have to be mesh
>> related, but still something which would integrate mesh at some point
>> later on. Personally, I really like the idea of IT coops, so instead of
>> startups, you create a coop. You do the same thing, only all workers own
>> the company.
>>
>> One step further is also that you make all your customers own the
>> company as well. So not only workers, but customers also become members
>> and then you together determine prices. A friend of mine had an idea for
>> a farming cooperative, where they would connect multiple small farms
>> together to be able to fulfill big orders, but also customers would be
>> members of this cooperative.
>>
>> Do not forget that there can be many different types of cooperatives,
>> like housing, worker, and consumer coops.
>>
>> For an inspiration, the biggest cooperative, with 14 billion EUR in
>> revenue and 80k employees. Check what all they do:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation
>>
>>
>> Mitar
>>
>> > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Mitar <mitar at tnode.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi!
>> >>
>> >> I must say that filing for a coop status only to get this grant is a
>> >> bit... The idea of this grant is to help people who really believe in
>> >> cooperatives as means to a social change and need help with this. If
>> you
>> >> really want and believe in cooperatives and you want to be a
>> >> cooperative, then this is a great opportunity.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Mitar
>> >>
>> >>> Could we still file for coop status under the umbrella of SudoRoom?
>> >>> On Feb 11, 2014 11:35 PM, "Mitar" <mitar at tnode.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Just a comment. This money is awarded if you want to create a coop
>> as an
>> >>>> entity/business. Not only if project is cooperative in spirit.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But I do encourage you to apply if you have any coop idea. Friends of
>> >>>> mine (they were at Mass effect) (Derek and Mikey) are for example
>> >>>> creating an IT coop (where mesh is a part of their ideas). (If
>> anybody
>> >>>> has any contacts with other IT coops in the area, if they are any,
>> >>>> please tell me to forward them.)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So yes, this is a great opportunity. It is yearly. Spread the word
>> >> around.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mitar
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> If anyone is interested in writing an application, the Berkeley
>> Student
>> >>>>> Cooperative has announced a $10,000 cooperative development grant
>> for
>> >>>>> cooperative projects that serve students or underserved members of
>> >>>>> low-income communities within the SF Bay Area
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> https://sites.google.com/a/bsc.coop/eacom/co-op-development-fund
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Applications are due 11:59 pm, Sunday March 9th.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I am still interested in starting an extension to the mesh in
>> Berkeley
>> >>>>> starting within the co-ops. This might be a nice way to get the
>> central
>> >>>>> management on board, too and bring a bit more funding for hefty
>> >> backbone
>> >>>>> equipment / more nodes.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Lemme know if you all have questions. Still have a PicoStation
>> sitting
>> >>>>> around waiting for mesh firmware to be loaded on!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Nader
>> >>>>>
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