[Mesh] coop ISP

Forrest h techpraxis at gnutome.net
Thu Feb 13 19:02:13 PST 2014 

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We are having meetings on these topics right now and in the next 30
days here in Seattle. Bill Aal (toolsforchange.org) and I met this
morning to begin to map out exactly what such an enterprise might look
like. I am very interested to collaborate with folks on this topic.
And I am half-Basque, I also know a thing or two about MCC (Mondragon) ;-)

Forrest Hartzamendi-Hawes

On 02/13/2014 12:27 PM, Jacob Levin wrote:
> If others want to spend some time tonight talking through what a 
> cooperatively owned ISP could look like, I'd love to be a part of
> that discussion. Some folks from Mondragon's University just held
> an event on cooperatives on Tuesday in SF and I talked with Ricardo
> from SELC a little bit about IT cooperatives. If we try and get a
> picture of how a cooperative might operate within and in
> partnership with the mesh tonight, I'd be happy to stop by the SELC
> legal cafe next week and get answers on whatever questions we come
> up with.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:00 PM, <mesh-request at lists.sudoroom.org>
> wrote:
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>> 1. Re: BSC $10,000 Development Grant (Mitar)
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>> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 15:52:37 -0800 From: Mitar
>> <mitar at tnode.com> To: Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com> Cc:
>> "mesh at lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh at lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: Re:
>> [Mesh] BSC $10,000 Development Grant Message-ID:
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>> Hi!
>> 
>>> Jeremy and I are applying to this grant for our food worker
>>> coop ;)
>> 
>> Amazing!!! :-)
>> 
>> (I am not sure what food worker coop is, but still amazing. :-)
>> )
>> 
>>> I think the more relevant applications, the better.
>> 
>> Yes!!! Please, spread the word, apply. Personally, I really think
>> that people should try to create more coops, it is a very good
>> way for a social change.
>> 
>>> On the other hand, I think it could work if a group of
>>> Berkeleyans wanted to coordinate a group to start their own
>>> "mesh cooperative" since this seems to be a vibe of many of the
>>> folks we've talked to in Berkeley, students and other residents
>>> alike. Any such "mesh cooperative" could participate in The
>>> People's Open Network and work in close coordination
>> or
>>> simple solidarity with Sudo Mesh.
>> 
>> Yes!
>> 
>> And they do not have to be from Berkeley. Grant are not targeted
>> only to Berkeley area.
>> 
>> Maybe also think about a coop which would build on top of mesh
>> network. In guifi.net (Spanish community wireless network with
>> 15k+ nodes) whole small companies already work inside the
>> network, providing different services and so on. There are people
>> who would like and are able to pay to become a member and they
>> want also technical support. A coop could be that. Or maybe some
>> service on top of it. Or it does not have to be mesh related, but
>> still something which would integrate mesh at some point later
>> on. Personally, I really like the idea of IT coops, so instead
>> of startups, you create a coop. You do the same thing, only all
>> workers own the company.
>> 
>> One step further is also that you make all your customers own
>> the company as well. So not only workers, but customers also
>> become members and then you together determine prices. A friend
>> of mine had an idea for a farming cooperative, where they would
>> connect multiple small farms together to be able to fulfill big
>> orders, but also customers would be members of this cooperative.
>> 
>> Do not forget that there can be many different types of
>> cooperatives, like housing, worker, and consumer coops.
>> 
>> For an inspiration, the biggest cooperative, with 14 billion EUR
>> in revenue and 80k employees. Check what all they do:
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation
>> 
>> 
>> Mitar
>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Mitar <mitar at tnode.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> 
>>>> I must say that filing for a coop status only to get this
>>>> grant is a bit... The idea of this grant is to help people
>>>> who really believe in cooperatives as means to a social
>>>> change and need help with this. If you really want and
>>>> believe in cooperatives and you want to be a cooperative,
>>>> then this is a great opportunity.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mitar
>>>> 
>>>>> Could we still file for coop status under the umbrella of
>>>>> SudoRoom? On Feb 11, 2014 11:35 PM, "Mitar"
>>>>> <mitar at tnode.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just a comment. This money is awarded if you want to
>>>>>> create a coop as
>> an
>>>>>> entity/business. Not only if project is cooperative in
>>>>>> spirit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But I do encourage you to apply if you have any coop
>>>>>> idea. Friends of mine (they were at Mass effect) (Derek
>>>>>> and Mikey) are for example creating an IT coop (where
>>>>>> mesh is a part of their ideas). (If anybody has any
>>>>>> contacts with other IT coops in the area, if they are
>>>>>> any, please tell me to forward them.)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So yes, this is a great opportunity. It is yearly. Spread
>>>>>> the word
>>>> around.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mitar
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If anyone is interested in writing an application, the
>>>>>>> Berkeley
>> Student
>>>>>>> Cooperative has announced a $10,000 cooperative
>>>>>>> development grant for cooperative projects that serve
>>>>>>> students or underserved members of low-income
>>>>>>> communities within the SF Bay Area
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/a/bsc.coop/eacom/co-op-development-fund
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
Applications are due 11:59 pm, Sunday March 9th.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am still interested in starting an extension to the
>>>>>>> mesh in
>> Berkeley
>>>>>>> starting within the co-ops. This might be a nice way to
>>>>>>> get the
>> central
>>>>>>> management on board, too and bring a bit more funding
>>>>>>> for hefty
>>>> backbone
>>>>>>> equipment / more nodes.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lemme know if you all have questions. Still have a
>>>>>>> PicoStation
>> sitting
>>>>>>> around waiting for mesh firmware to be loaded on!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nader
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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