[sudo-discuss] FUD around Lockpicking class

[rusty lindgren]

Actually, based on their argument it isn't logical at all, because they
don't promote gun education as a bad thing.  If they are going to promote
this as bad.  How many murders involved skilled gun use?

It's totally morally inconsistent, and also is something legal you can do
at a professional trade school.  Tool teaches a trade and by the logic of
threat, it's self-defense(i.e. lock-pick forensics, getting better locks,
knowing what to look for and all).

I honestly can't think of anything more fraudulent in terms of journalism
than this.

-Rusty

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Anthony Di Franco
<di.franco at aya.yale.edu>wrote:

> If you knew how many different break-in methods the OPD recognizes, you'd
> have an estimate, then.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:31 PM, J.D. Zamfirescu <zamfire at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I called the OPD today to get stats on how many break-ins involve picked
>> locks. The woman I spoke with was entirely unhelpful, saying something
>> along the lines of "all break-in methods are comparably common".
>>
>> Google searches suggest that ~5-10% of burglaries nationally involve
>> picked locks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Tommy York <tommy.york at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> "OAKLAND -- One skill that appears all too common in Oakland these days
>>> is the ability to pick a lock. Burglaries jumped more than 40 percent last
>>> year, and not all of them involved window smashes."
>>>
>>> This is a horrific excuse for journalism. Not all burglaries involved
>>> window smashes? Oh really? And in that case, how many involved skilled lock
>>> picking?
>>>
>>> Mencken would be angry.
>>>
>>> - tommy
>>> -----------------
>>> Thomas Riley York (杨德民) 510.926.0510
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/tommyyork
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:20 PM, J.D. Zamfirescu <zamfire at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> more:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_22683660/oakland-mayor-jean-quan-apologizes-promoting-lock-picking
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's awesome, free press!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:40 PM, rusty lindgren <
>>>>> rustylindgren at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh dear gawd.  This is possibly the most moronic piece of
>>>>>> "journalism" I have ever seen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are they unaware of the fact that you can go to a lock-picking
>>>>>> school(actually it teaches you way more), and that this is just a cheaper
>>>>>> version of that?  (see: http://www.lock411.com/training.html).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Also, virtually no crime in Oakland involves skilled lock-picking,
>>>>>> because it's a waste of time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't worry though, you can train in deadly martial arts, go to the
>>>>>> shooting range, and buy ninja swords just about anywhere in Oakland, but
>>>>>> picking a Masterlock is "appalling".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Rusty
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Anca Mosoiu <anca at techliminal.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heads up. Looks like some folks aren't too happy that people are
>>>>>>> learning how to pick locks this weekend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=9010047
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is Oakland Local's response:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://m.oaklandlocal.com/article/oaklands-mayor-quan-apologizes-mentioning-weekend-lockpicking-class-really
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> -=-=-=-
>>>>>>> Anca Mosoiu | Tech Liminal
>>>>>>> anca at techliminal.com
>>>>>>> M: (510) 220-6660
>>>>>>> http://techliminal.com | T: @techliminal | F:
>>>>>>> facebook.com/techliminal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rusty Lindgren
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
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Rusty Lindgren
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