[sudo-discuss] Breaking: Oakland to lead country in, diverting anti-terror funding to ubiquitous warrantless surveillance

[Anthony Di Franco]

Or a 'dumb' phone with any software or firmware at all on it, for that
matter?


On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:11 PM, GtwoG PublicOhOne <g2g-public01 at att.net>wrote:

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> So is the objection to ubiquitous microphones, the closed software that
> controls them, the fact that they might be turned on without peoples'
> knowledge, or the fact that the police can use them to listen to what's
> nearby...?
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> And, how does that description differ from a "smart"phone?
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> On 13-10-15-Tue 2:43 PM, Shawn Lesniak wrote:
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> On 2013-10-13 22:49, sudo-discuss-request at lists.sudoroom.org wrote:
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>  Lastly, shot-spotters shouldn't be controversial, even among those of us
> who support the personal rights interpretation of the 2nd Amendment.  A
> gunshot on a city street means one of two things: a criminal has just
> shot a victim, or a criminal's would-be victim has just shot their
> attacker in self-defense.  Either of those things merits getting the
> police and paramedics on the scene, pronto.
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>  Shotspotters are microphones.  They can capture other sounds and it is
> not clear how many other sounds and how long those sounds are retained.
>  Their use would be less controversial if they were an oracle that just
> spit out 4 .40 caliber rounds were fired at the intersection of Grand
> and Broadway at 23:12:32 (15 seconds ago) instead of capturing any audio
> at all.
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