[sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] cut down on the # of outside chairs?

niki niki.shelley at gmail.com
Fri Dec 12 15:22:31 PST 2014


Why not keep extra chairs stacked neatly somewhere just inside the door in
the event that we actually need extra seating?

I agree that all of those chairs are a bit overkill. Also, the cafe would,
at some point, like to apply for a permit for outdoor seating.

xo

N

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Amgo Go <littlebitagive at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just speaking personally, from the perspective of some one newly educated
> on how easy it is for the "Neighborhood" (developers, business development
> folks, city of oakland) to make life hard for us to continue (see 350% tax
> increase just served us by the "Business Improvement District"), I suggest
> we take the feelings of our neighbors (the people that live next to us)
> very seriously.
> I'd like our neighbors to be on our side and love that we are there. If
> that means fewer chairs, or just being anal about straightening the chairs
> all the time, that seems fair. I think erring on the side of being too
> considerate to our neighbors is a good idea...
>
> I do like the folding bench idea!!
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:42 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yea, yar - I'm not saying we have to do it, but honestly I've never seen
>>> even the bench and metal chairs full (seating about six).. do you think we
>>> need seating for 12?
>>>
>>> I'm thinking, maybe why don't we see if we're ever running out of
>>> seating, then return to the idea of adding more chairs, ie if that is
>>> needed.
>>>
>>> I think the more chairs we add, the more likely we are to get a
>>> complaint is all. And If we don't need em, I figure why put that
>>> risk out there.
>>>
>>
>> I propose doubling the number of chairs every day until we get a
>> complaint, then backing back down to the previous number.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 12, 2014, Torrie Fischer <tdfischer at hackerbots.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe install a large folding bench onto the side of the building, like
>>>> some
>>>> restaurants have.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, December 12, 2014 02:01:24 PM yar wrote:
>>>> > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:34 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > > Great strides have been made visavis debris and garbage ending up
>>>> outside,
>>>> > > and that is great. However, the newly-longer line of chairs chained
>>>> up
>>>> > > outside the building, while useful of course, frankly is starting
>>>> to look
>>>> > > too janky and an eyesore at this point.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > In order to improve somewhat the outside appearance of our building
>>>> and
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > perception of neighbors, I would like to cut down on the number of
>>>> outside
>>>> > > chairs. Basically, I think we should remove all but the bench and
>>>> the
>>>> > > bare-metal chairs. IE, I think all the new white chairs should be
>>>> removed.
>>>> > > It's just too much.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > In addition, by the way, technically we do not have permission from
>>>> the
>>>> > > city to put any seating outside. I've looked at our property line
>>>> and its
>>>> > > not clear actually that it extends a few feet from the building.
>>>> Even if
>>>> > > it did, there is an easement with the city's sidewalk that means
>>>> they
>>>> > > have control over it.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I appreciate the doocratic effort to provide more outside seating,
>>>> but can
>>>> > > we please remove these extra white chairs? Its overkill imo.
>>>> >
>>>> > Ok so where are people supposed to sit then? Would they prefer we
>>>> > sit/lie on the sidewalk instead?
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